Criterion Random Speculation Vol.2
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Dr. Mabuse
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Ted Todorov
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I hope not:Dr. Mabuse wrote:Apparently, Touch of Evil is OOP. Would make a great special edition from Criterion if they could wrestle it away from Universal.
They really need to rerelease only films that have had intolerably bad transfers, like Rohmer's Pox-Lorber DVDs.
Otherwise Criterion really needs to stick to unreleased films. Think of all the Mizoguchi, Malle, Ozu, Saura, Bresson, etc. etc. that they already have the rights to... Not to mention the already scheduled Tati & Kurosawa re-releases.
Suppose they were to switch to some new HD format in a couple of years and restart the collection at spine #1, re-realesing things in a similar order to what they released on DVD -- then all the unreleased stuff would fade a half decade into the future.
Couldn't possibly happen? Isn't that what happened between Laser & DVD?
- FilmFanSea
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While I share your sentiments, Ted, from a business perspective, Criterion must realize that sales of the Mizoguchi, Naruse, Ophuls, Ozu, Ichikawa, Rossellini, et al films I'm dying for them to release are unlikely to pay last month's electric bill.Ted Todorov wrote:Otherwise Criterion really needs to stick to unreleased films. Think of all the Mizoguchi, Malle, Ozu, Saura, Bresson, etc. etc. that they already have the rights to... Not to mention the already scheduled Tati & Kurosawa re-releases.
I'm happy with the current version of Touch of Evil, but would I ante up $50 (retail) to see it get the Mr. Arkadin treatment? You bet I would, and I suspect many others would as well.
I would be delighted if Criterion could license the more popular canonical films--which may already have received decent DVD releases--and give them the deluxe treatment. If only because the sales of those discs could help bankroll the release of the more 'obscure' films you and I crave. I also suspect that the Criterion diehards would find this business strategy more acceptable than the mercifully short-lived Armageddon model.
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Dr. Mabuse
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- godardslave
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this statement simply makes no sense.FilmFanSea wrote:Criterion must realize that sales of the Mizoguchi, Naruse, Ophuls, Ozu, Ichikawa, Rossellini, et al films I'm dying for them to release are unlikely to pay last month's electric bill.
Those film directors are the absolute classic cream of film directors. If criterion can release films by Suzuki or hideo gosha, if they can release truly obscure films like Fat Girl, then they sure as fuck (from a money-making viewpoint) can release Mizoguchi, Naruse, Ophuls, Ozu, Ichikawa and Rossellini.
I am sure its simply either a rights issue or (most likely) finding good enough elements, which then take time to be restored.
- Cinephrenic
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- htdm
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I wonder if this is true. My understanding is that the Ugetsu disc is selling quite well for Criterion.FilmFanSea wrote:While I share your sentiments, Ted, from a business perspective, Criterion must realize that sales of the Mizoguchi, Naruse, Ophuls, Ozu, Ichikawa, Rossellini, et al films I'm dying for them to release are unlikely to pay last month's electric bill.
- justeleblanc
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- souvenir
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at least three of those will be 2-disc editions as well and Viridiana, even if a single disc, appears to have several supplementsNarshty wrote:So, the five May releases according to whats up on Image's and Criterion's sites combined seem to be:
Viridiana
Late Spring
À nos amours
Harlan County USA
Grey Gardens 2-disc
A very nice mix.
- Cinephrenic
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- justeleblanc
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- backstreetsbackalright
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Yeah, I'm a little confused. I thought we knew about three of those last month. And Late Spring not much later. Did we just get word on those unusually early? No matter, to my tastes this is one of the strongest months I've ever seen. Rarely are two long-awaited must-buy DVDs calling my name in the same month's announcements....
- justeleblanc
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The hell are you talking about?Dr. Mabuse wrote:Apparently, Touch of Evil is OOP. Would make a great special edition from Criterion if they could wrestle it away from Universal.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/6305999872/
- Theodore R. Stockton
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- davida2
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I spotted it earlier today (about 6PM EST/3PM PST) by going to the 'browse the catalog' section, sorting by spine number, and it was listed (with no info) as "spine # 0". About an hour later it was gone...pzman84 wrote:At about 8:31 PST, I went to the Criterion website. À nos amours was not listed there. Just wanted to tell you guys this and keep up on what is going on.
May is shaping up to be a very expensive month - the Ozu is good enough, Tokyo-Ga is an unexpected surprise, and the Kopple on DVD (after years of rotten VHS editions) is not to be missed...
- davida2
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There is hope - I sent in an inquiry a few days ago (before spotting this post) and haven't gotten a response yet. BFI was able to get a pair of Ghatak's films (and a retrospective of all of them made the rounds in Europe some years ago), and Cloud-Capped Star at least is quite deserving of a wider audience. I've never gotten a response like this one though - intriguing...LightBulbFilm wrote:Mulvaney's response to me in question of any releases from the Indian filmmaker Ritwik Ghatak:
I've never gotten a response like this before. It's always been: There are no plans to release anything... So these could be a possibility.Hi Thomas,
We consider many films and directors, and face many factors in attaining
them I really can't speak to your question, because I can't discuss more
than the allready announced or released films.
Best
JM
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Noir of the Night
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Perhaps there is hope for more from Wong Kar-Wai (maybe it's just me, but this suggests that while the films aren't on the scheduled release list, they could be in the future):
Hello Matt,
These films are not on our scheduled release list at present. I can't really
discuss titles that aren't already released or are announced on the website.
Best
JM
On 1/20/06 12:58 AM, "Matt Lingo" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sender: Matt Lingo
> Email: [email protected]
> Question Type: Question
> Comment: Any chance of a DVD release of Chungking Express? Or, for that
> matter, anything else by Wong Kar-Wai?
Hello Matt,
These films are not on our scheduled release list at present. I can't really
discuss titles that aren't already released or are announced on the website.
Best
JM
On 1/20/06 12:58 AM, "Matt Lingo" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sender: Matt Lingo
> Email: [email protected]
> Question Type: Question
> Comment: Any chance of a DVD release of Chungking Express? Or, for that
> matter, anything else by Wong Kar-Wai?
- daniel p
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- zedz
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I'm not so sure (though I'd love you to be right). This "we can't even talk about unannounced titles" reply is a completely new formulation (as far as I know) and may have been engineered to fob off any enquiry. It's really just saying "I am now only permitted to discuss released and officially announced titles" and probably can't be construed too optimistically. Has anybody received a different response to an enquiry about an unannounced title in the last few weeks?
- Buttery Jeb
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Cinéslob
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