domino harvey wrote:I'll be the first voice of dissent. I know many people I respect love this movie, but I don't get out of it whatever they got. I think this is an awful movie and I hated the mishmash of tones and lousy performances (save Allyn Joslyn). Bad Girl is a masterpiece. This is something else. The cult built around this movie in the last couple years is inexplicable, and I wonder if it being widely available will feed or quell its elevated placement after it no longer is a film fetish object like Out 1 et al
Ok I saw it. I only knew F.Borzage silent movies (some) - which F.Borzage non-silence movie would you recommend ? Do you think that F.Borzage "lost the touch" when he stoped "silence-movies" ?
You are right there's a lot of flaws; improbable "plot" (you can't sense the threat -
I even wonder if I've really seen that there has been really a crime - like I thought I did see - and that the guy has just disappeared...
- then the movie "jump" into the relationship with Gail Russell (they were not suddenly in love) - like if there's missing a part of the movie. But this "bad edit" - deliberate or unfortunate - can give to this movie a dream-nightmare-like structure.
bad cast choice for the doomed "bad" guy. He's not likeable/"loveable". He doesn't seem very "expressive". But after all, that's one of the main point of the whole story.
Since I've the video-essay for
The Univited I'm in love with Gail Russell and I learn how she was "uncomfortable" when acting... I can't tell, it's just like Gene Tierney. She's absolutely stunning in this movie and there's this look in the eyes which says a lot more than the whole main character (Dane Clark).
It doesn't have the long unavoidable threatened of the superb "
They Live By Night" - we can not feel it.
But there's an incredible photography. And some stunning short scenes which worth this movie to be seen and buy. The opening 5 minutes are amazing and some cineast could take a whole movie to get such tension and trying to demonstrate the same thing. How he sum-up the childhood in less than 10 minutes with some striking visual composition
the puppet hanging over the bed of the children is a "hanged-man" pupper
. The next 5 minutes are as good and sum up in a poetic/impressionist way (the use of shadows!) what could have sum up the point of "
In Cold Blood" (which is flawless contrary to "Moonrise")- I was totally hooked. Sometimes I was thinking about some early black & white Tarkovsky or the opening of Orson Welles "Othello" (for the use of shadows)
There's a lot of poetic and powerful scenes (the one where is is discussing about "the bad and good", the poor-cute animal chase...etc...) makes me think about the photography of
The Night Of The Hunter.
The main problem in my humble opinion is the plot, the editing, the coherence of the narrative- but it has a striking power with some powerful scenes (and there's a lot - which is not bad after all for a movie which last less than 90 minutes) - where we found the poignant force of F.Borzage earlier's movies and the poetic I know and love from his movies "Lucky Star", "Bad Girl", etc...
Thus, for these moments of pure cinema grace, and Gail Rusell

I loved this movie. The irony is that this movie seems to be as cursed and doomed as what F.Borzage tried to show.
From a "cinema" point of view, this movie has some powerful, poetic force - but the counterpoint is that this poetic, poignant, romantic and doomed funeral dirge is plagued by an "erratic" narrative. The most striking parts are the one without dialogue. (I'm sorry if I can't explain it better but I'm French and it's difficult sometimes to speak clearly what I have in mind)