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#126 Post by artfilmfan »

Michael Kerpan wrote: Gosho's "Banka" was available on unsubbed video from Japan -- doubt that it exists in any other home video form
No wonder why a quick search for the DVD (even unsubbed) didn't produce anything.
Michael Kerpan wrote: The Imai films both came out on unsubbed DVD in Japan. Toho's classics DVDs tend to be on the pricy side, alas. The only Imai I've seen is "Blue Mountains" -- which was pretty talky (compared to Ozu and Naruse).
Those two unsubbed DVDs are the ones I'm thinking of getting.

As for "Blue Mountains", if it weren't for the price, I might have gotten it already. How's the film? I really like the cover of the DVD.

Back to Naruse ... Have you seen Tsuruhachi and Tsurujiro ? How good or bad is this film ? I may have to miss this one, so I'm trying to find out what I'll miss.
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#127 Post by Michael Kerpan »

I pre-ordered "Blue Mountains" -- so the price wasn't as daunting as it is now. It is interesting soiciologically -- with some nice performances. I would guess that Imai is not quite on the same level as Ozu or Naruse or Shimizu or Gosho. More akin to KInoshita, perhaps.

"Tsuruhachi and Tsurujiro" was worth seeing -- good lead performances and interesting music. Not quite as good as "Song Lantern" or "Traveling Actors" -- but better than some of the other war-time stuff.
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#128 Post by artfilmfan »

Thanks. I'll have to be careful about these Imai films as the DVDs are very expensive.

It doesn't seem like Tsuruhachi and Tsurujiro is a "can't miss" film. I'll just have to pretend that it never makes it to the DC area :)
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#129 Post by Michael Kerpan »

Whether T&T is indispensable probably depends on devoted a fan you are of Isuzu Yamada. ;~}

Imai apparently did better in terms of awards in Japan than any other director (5 first places from Kinema Junpo, 6 from the Mainichi Film Concours). Not sure whether his other films are quite as talky as "Blue Mountains". Not much useful has been written about his work in English.
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#130 Post by artfilmfan »

I'll have to miss T&T because of other commitment. Don't start giving me reasons not to honor that commitment :) I'll do some research on the Imai films. I wonder which ones won the first prizes.

Back to Naruse ... Some Naruse titles with Chinese subtitles have surfaced. These are the inexpensive Chinese releases. Don't know about the picture quality or whether the subs are burned in. I hope someday T&T will get a DVD release (with or without English subtitles).
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#131 Post by Michael Kerpan »

Which Naruse films have gotten Chinese releases?
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#132 Post by artfilmfan »

Older Brother, Younger Sister and Sound of the Mountain. I was surprised to find them when I did the Yoshiko Kuga and Setsuko Hara searches at YesAsia.com. I wonder if there are others. By the way, do you know what films are in this set?

Catching up with some highlights from Weeks 2 & 3:

Mother: A little film with a big heart. It's hard not to like a film about a mother struggling to raise a family. (Rating: five little stars).

The Song Lantern: I'm not too crazy about the Noh singing and dancing; but this film has a good storyline and looks beautiful. A little gem.

Late Chrysanthemums: No surprise here. It's a good film. The print shown seems to indicate that different segments (reels) were made from different sources because the picture quality varies. The last segment looks too bright (washed out). I hope companies that will release the DVDs of this film pay attention to this problem.

After watching it on VHS, I often imagined how wonderful When a Woman Ascends the Stairs would look on the big screen. It exceeded my expectation. The jazzy score is also wonderful when heard over the theater's good sound system. Hideko Takamine's performance in this film is extraordinary.

Sound of the Mountain: It's been said many times before; this is a wonderful film. It's also been said before that So Yamamura gave a great performance in this film.

The surprise: Prior to seeing When a Woman Ascends the Stairs and Sound of the Mountain on the big screen, I rated "Sound" higher than "Woman". I changed my mind after seeing them both on the big screen. "Woman" now has a slight edge over "Sound".
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#133 Post by Michael Kerpan »

"Woman Ascending" is certainly more stunning in a screening than it is when seen at home. "Yearning" might be even more stunning from this perspective. All the same, "Sound of the Mountain" retained its primacy over both of these extraordianary 'scope films -- even after seeing them all screened.

I was bemused by my first encounters with Noh -- but I rapidly became fascinated by this. So -- for me, the Noh performances add immense value to "Song Lantern". I very much want to see a full-scale live Noh presentation some day.
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#134 Post by artfilmfan »

That offer from the Shochiku executive for a tour of their studio is still standing, right ? Why not take up that offer? You can catch a Noh performance in Tokyo on the same trip. It seems like a sensible thing to do :)

I think the 'scope format is really well-suited and can do its magic more for a film like When a Woman Ascends the Stairs because there are more characters and activities to capture since the events take place in a bar and in a busy district such as Ginza.
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#135 Post by Michael Kerpan »

The Shochiku tour offer...

I think that was one of those polite "invitations" that are more a way of saying "nice to have met you" than a bona fide offer actually meant to be accepted.

(This is apparently a common Japanese practice).

I've done some research in Japanese customs -- and it sure seems like this kind of invitation is quite formulaic. It is meant in all kindness -- but with no expectation of acceptance. (They also promised that there would be some Shimizu DVDs -- and that hasn't happened either). ;~}

The Shochiku people apologized for not including subs themselves -- but since they soon after got commitments for subbed releases and Criterion, one can't really fault them too much on this score.

I think Shochiku had high hopes for increasing the visibility of Shimizu on a worldwide basis -- given the initial rapturous response its mini-retrospective of his work evoked in the first few places it was shown. I think they were stunned by the fact that, despite the great initial press, NO ONE picked this up for further showings. I can't help believe that this "failure" had something to do with scuttling any DVD plans.

I don't know that anyone backed out of booking the Shimizu mini-retrospective -- but after this made a splash in a couple of high visibility venues (Berlin Film Festival and Hong Kong Film Festivals -- as I recall), virtually no one picked this up for further showings. Shochiku's team practically begged Harvard Film Archive to schedule this after the Ozu retrospective (which turned out to be a major success), but HFA was undergoing internal turmoil -- and it never happened. And neither the HFA nor the Boston Museum of Fine Arts picked up even a token piece of the "110 years of Shochiku" retrospective that came through more recently (which had a few of the Shimizu films, plush some Shimazu and Gosho and Kinoshita, etc).
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Michael Kerpan wrote:I've done some research in Japanese customs -- and it sure seems like this kind of invitation is quite formulaic. It is meant in all kindness -- but with no expectation of acceptance.
"Sodeska?" (Not sure how it is spelled (the spellchecker didn't like it; but that's how it sounds to me when I hear it said in Ozu and Naruse films. I think it means "Is that so?")

Two years ago, someone suggested that fans on this forum meet in Seattle to discuss Ozu's films. I then suggested that you haul your Ozu collection along. You said that Seattle was too far and that should any of us ever be in town, you would be glad to let us see any of the Ozu films in your collection. Don't know if you had started your research in Japanese customs at that time. :)

Highlights of Week 4:

Daughters, Wives, Mothers: It's so unusual (almost unreal) to see Setsuko Hara and Hideko Takamine next to each other in some of the scenes and interacting with each other. Early in the film, I wondered how the characters that they play would turn out to be (good or bad) and how these two giants of classic Japanese cinema would be treated. It turns out that both played good-hearted characters and both were dealt with by Naruse with even hands and with equal respects.

Floating Clouds: As I've said before, this is a heartbreaking film. Once a heartbreaker, it's always a heartbreaker. It's the first time that I've seen people cry at this retro. A number of questions that I had when I watched the Toho DVD have now been answered, including: (1) the Indochina country where the two lovers started their affair is Vietnam. Had I paid close attention when I watched the Toho DVD, I might have picked up the clue in the (conical) hats that the natives wear in one scene; (2) the location where Yukiko first becomes sick is Kagoshima City. This is where the couple wait, first for the storms to subside and then for Yukiko to feel a little better, before they take the one-day trip by sea to the island of Yakushima. Having seen it in real life not too long ago, I wonder why I didn't recognize Mt. Sakurajima (the volcano), standing majestically in Kagoshima Bay, when I watched the Toho DVD. That says a lot about watching a movie at home, especially without subtitles :) I was able to overcome my initial dislike of the music in this film and now think that the music, strange as it sounds, is very effective in invoking the couple's memories of the past as well as carrying the story forward. My affection for this film has increased substantially after seeing it with English subtitles.

A general observation: If Ozu loved to incorporate a red kettle in his films, it can be said that Naruse loved to incorporate a short scene depicting a small group of traveling musical performers in his films. Most of Naruse's films that I've seen have this scene in them. For a few that do not, Naruse instead used a scene depicting some kind of festival with musical performance. For instance, in Husband and Wife, he used a procession of some kind of festival that makes its way through the neighborhoods at night. In Floating Clouds, he used a lion dance scene. The music that the small group of traveling performers play (in most of the films) is always the same. You can't miss it if you pay attention. In Sudden Rain, for once, I think Naruse was teasing the audience when that music is heard (whenever Setsuko Hara goes into town (or the market)) but the performers are not shown.
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#137 Post by Michael Kerpan »

Don't know if you had started your research in Japanese customs at that time.
Don't recall. But I have had visitors from afar who got to watch this and that. ;~}

"Daughters Wives Mothers" (I see no reason why these should not agree) is a bit sprawling and diffuse -- but has a number of wonderful scenes.

"Floating Clouds" only gets better and better with increased familiarity. (As do many other Naruse films).

Most of the time the little groups of street performers are a form of old-fashioned advertising. They do appear often -- and sometimes you hear them -- even if you may not actually see them (or you don't see them until quite a while after you hear them).
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#138 Post by Arn777 »

For those of you able to read French, Cahiers du Cinéma will publish a book on Naruse in May, written by film critic Jean Narboni. It should be an interesting one.
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Arn777 wrote:For those of you able to read French, Cahiers du Cinéma will publish a book on Naruse in May, written by film critic Jean Narboni. It should be an interesting one.
A Cahiers book on Naruse was theoretically supposed to come out a couple of years ago. And it was actually listed on FNAC etc. But no one ever seemed able to actually order a copy. I wonder if this is the same book, finally coming out after some unexpected delay.
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#140 Post by artfilmfan »

Week 5:

The retrospective reaches its pinnacle this week with the showings of five solidly good films: Anzukko, Lightning, Flowing, Repast and A Wife's Heart.

There are some surprises, though. The most pleasant one is A Wife's Heart, a film that I had known so little about but turns out to be very good. Hideko Takamine turns in another great performance.

I was surprised that I didn't like Flowing more, now that I've seen it with subtitles.

It's refreshing to hear piano music featured prominently in the soundtracks of Anzukko, A Wife's Heart, and last week's Sudden Rain. The piano music does wonder for these films because it gives them their contemporary character. This is in stark contrast to the occasionaly beatings of the drum used in the soundtrack of Flowing. It seems as if those occasional and sparse beatings of the drum announce the approaching end of a way of life depicted in the film, a way of life that will soon be no longer contemporary.

Repast: I'm withholding my further comment on this film until after I see it again this coming week.
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#141 Post by Michael Kerpan »

Now you are in territory that arouses my jealousy -- I still have not seen "Anzukko" or "A Woman's Heart".

Too bad you didn't like "Flowing" more. I love it -- with or without subtitles. ;~{

Presumably "Sudden Rain" only had a piano score because it was put together so quickly. But it certainly works well.
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#142 Post by artfilmfan »

Should I lavish more praises upon A Wife's Heart and Anzukko, just to "rub it in" ? :) I think I should. I like A Wife's Heart a lot. I saw it twice.

Anzukko features one unlikeable character (the most unlikeable one that I've seen in Naruse's films). Other than that, it's a very good film.
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#143 Post by SHOCKMASTER »

The dislikable character in ANZUKKO is whom? I am guessing it is her writer husband yr referring to?
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#144 Post by Michael Kerpan »

Tell us all a bit about how Mifune does in Naruse. (As I recall, he's an important character in "A Wife's Heart" -- one reason why I want to see this so much). No one has shown the other Mifune Naruse film -- "Condeuct Report on Professor Ishinaka" (which is supposedly rather interesting).

As I understand it, it is important that the unlikeable character in "Anzukko" be unlikeable. So that isn't necdessarily a defect....
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Anzukko: Yes, the character who is not likeable is the young husband. And of course, it is necessary that he is not likeable in this film. And, no, it's not a weakness of the film/story that this character is not likeable. The actor played his part very well and effectively, to the point that I got upset seeing the people around him suffered because of his actions, words and nature.

A Wife's Heart: I should have mentioned in my earlier post that Mifune is great in this film. He really has what people called "the presence" on screen. He plays a character who's very kind and supportive. He's half of the reason why this is a very good film. The other half is Hideko Takamine. Mifune and Takamine together are wonderful in this film. Either she plays her part well or what, one can see in Takamine's eyes her admiration for Mifune.

Week 6:

The Approach of Autumn: In spite of the seriousness of the subject matter (mother "abandoning" her son), this film has its moments of charm, thanks to the script writer who came up with intelligent lines for the young girl to deliver (a few lines concerning the polutions and the building of the apartment complexes did not work well, though, because the girl is too young to really understand such issues). At one point, the girl tells her friend (the boy) that her father has two wives and that he maintains the main home in Tokyo. The boy then asks her: "what do you mean"? The girl replies: "I mean exactly as I said". Charming! And then, there is another moment in the film which does not have anything to do with the girl but with two little boys who crawl under the fences to get to the empty lot to watch the baseball game. When the police man comes to chase the baseball players and the spectators away, the two little boys, instead of running for the partially open gate, again crawl under the fences to get away. If this scene did not make you laugh, you must have been dozing off. Underneath the charm and the humor there is sadness that permeates the film. This is a very good film. Another pleasant surprise.

A Wanderer's Notebook: For whatever reason, I had avoided trying to find out about this film prior to seeing it this past weekend. This included not reading what people have written about the film and not watching the Toho DVD. The only thing that I had read about the film prior to seeing it was the brief description provided by the NGA. This avoidance paid off handsomely because I was stunned by this outstanding film. The story is so rich (a funny word being used here to describe a film about a person living through poverty), the direction is so expertly done, and the acting (by Hideko Takamine) is so memorable. This film constantly pulls your heartstrings. The most poignant moment comes at the end, when Fumiko closes her eyes to rest and her mind wanders to her childhood days... Simply put, this film is a masterpiece. (BTW, Takamine's performance reminds me of Giulietta Masina's in "La Strada").

Repast: The first time I saw this film with subtitles (last weekend), I did not respond to it favorably as I had when I watched the Toho DVD. This was strange because, before the start of this retrospective, I considered it the top Naruse film. In order to try to understand why, I had to see it again. The revisit helps, but has not brought it back up to the top spot. This is a subtle film which requires more than one viewings in order for the viewer to really appreciate it. On the surface, it seems like an ordinary film. Beneath the surface lies its beauty and greatness.
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#146 Post by Michael Kerpan »

The only flaw of "Approach of Autumn" is the over-talkiness of some of the children's dialogue. A remarkably sad "children's film". Visually, this often a stunner.

Some people haven't been all that impressed with "Wanderer's Notebook" -- I can't imagine why. From the first, I was carried away by Takamine's utterly extraordinary performance. I think "Repast" could well be Naruse's deepest film. On one level it is (genuinely) a romantic comedy -- but there are so many other levels. ;~}
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Michael Kerpan wrote:I think "Repast" could well be Naruse's deepest film. On one level it is (genuinely) a romantic comedy -- but there are so many other levels. ;~}
If you read page 39 of the 4/21/06 Weekend section of The Washington Post, you'll find out what Jen Chaney wrote in her review of a DVD of a certain romantic comedy: "Just like love affairs, most romantic comedies are shallow, forgettable flings ..."

Week 7:

Yearning: A quietly beautiful film. It also features the most beautiful score in a Naruse film, a tender and sweet melody, perfectly capturing the essence of yearning.

How appropriate is it that the last film shown at this retrospective starring Hideko Takamine ends with a free-framed close-up of her face? With so many wonderful and memorable performances (including some memorable nuances), I'm starting to wonder if there has been a better actress.

Next week: the final week. Which film will end up at the top? Will find out.

(BTW, if you continue reading Jen Chaney's review, she also wrote: "Then there are the special few that sparkle and endure, becoming even more precious as time passes". :) )
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#148 Post by Michael Kerpan »

While Takamine is surely wonderful -- I don't think she is MORE wonderful than Kinuyo Tanaka or Setsuko Hara -- just differently wonderful. ;~}

"Yearning" is indeed an impressive film -- and the last section is amazingly beautiful.
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#149 Post by artfilmfan »

Where does Kinuyo Tanaka come from? I thought, to you, everything is Setsuko Hara. :)

I saw the 1957 version of Snow Country (on VHS) this past weekend. I thought the pace of the film was a little too fast. It might have been a better film if the pace were slower. I liked the film, though.
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#150 Post by Michael Kerpan »

Where does Kinuyo Tanaka come from? I thought, to you, everything is Setsuko Hara
Setsuko Hara is sort of a first among equals with me. If forced to pick only one favorite -- she might be the one I'd name. But why pick just one?

I don't think any film industry has ever had the (almost) over-abundance of exceptional female talent that Japan had in the 50s and 60s -- though 30s Japan was almost as good. There must be more than 25 actresses of this era that I find extraordinary. ;~}
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