Children of Men

[Ribs]

This is a pretty big-deal release for Arrow, and to be honest I’m surprised they didn’t put it as a Video title because it could pretty cozily fit in.

[domino harvey]

The best part is that Zizek is all over the extras

[knives]

The best part is that Zizek is all over the extras

Gross.

[Morbii]

I held off on buying the studio Blu-ray in hopes Criterion would get this. Is this UK only?

[Ribs]

We’ll find out in 20 minutes, but I think it’s fairly likely Arrow picked up both this and Gosford from Uni for US/UK.

[Morbii]

That'd be fine by me. I was hoping for a Criterion, but Arrow will do just as good (or better) of a job.

[Ribs]

Nope, it’s UK only

[tenia]

The best part is that Zizek is all over the extras

It's actually just the older extras already on the Universal disc. He did an audio commentary and participated in a philosphical 30 min featurette for this release, and both are ported to the Arrow release. He doesn't appear more than this here.

[domino harvey]

Oh cool, I guess I never bothered to look at the extras on the old disc

[tenia]

If you're interested in that, the 3 technical ones are quite good. I also recall one (or maybe it's part of these 3 ?) about how part of the movie's scientific background actually already is visible IRL (especially the loss of fecondity at a worldwide level).

[colinr0380]

That reminds me that Cornel Wilde's No Blade of Grass would make for a good Blu-ray rescue at some point.

[FrauBlucher]

I’m very excited for this. This sits nicely somewhere in my top 20 in this century. I thought Criterion had a chance to release this and still may. If the pq is on point I’ll pick up the Arrow.

[dda1996a]

This might be one of Arrow's best surprises in a, while. What an amazing film this is.
It always amuses me how Lubezki didn't win either for this or Tree of Life...

[Big Ben]

The best part is that Zizek is all over the extras

Gross.

Half of the interview will consist of snorting I'm told.

Anyway I recall seeing this in High School and sort of being okay with it. At the time I don't really think I appreciated craft though. Time for a rewatch. Perhaps age and wisdom will do me better this time.

[swo17]

The problem is the craft has aged well but the dialogue hasn't

[Adam X]

How is “pull my finger” not classic, award-worthy dialogue?

[swo17]

Oh great

[knives]

That's nothing new and as far as I understand a case of people in industrialized nations opting out of having multiple children or children at all rather than some biological problem.

[Big Ben]

That's nothing new and as far as I understand a case of people in industrialized nations opting out of having multiple children or children at all rather than some biological problem.

Correct. Millenials are not having children for a variety of reasons now. A know more than a few people who wouldn't care one bit if they became infertile and I type that entirely with a straight face. It's just not a thing anymore.

[FrauBlucher]

Ironically my Arrow’s Children of Men bluray arrived today. Now I’ll get to watch the future.

In all seriousness, this has been happening for a long time. I’m 57 and all my grandparents came from families that had 5, 8, 9 and 11 siblings. That just doesn’t happen anymore in the developed countries. If someone has 4 kids that’s considered a big family.

[tenia]

all my grandparents came from families that had 5, 8, 9 and 11 siblings. That just doesn’t happen anymore in the developed countries. If someone has 4 kids that’s considered a big family.

These aren't necessarily the same thing. In hindsight, it doesn't look like all these kids always were wanted, and that men didn't care and women had to bear this situation. I saw a small news article 2 days ago and 2 of the 3 reasons mentioned for the drop in natality in Europe (Germany especially) were "better access to contraception" and "women having better access to culture and work". These aren't necessarily bad things to me.
However, this is a societal choice. What Children of Men is describing is a physiological change making humanity non fertile. This is not a choice.
While the 2 reasons probably are combined to give the current result, what Children of Men describes only is the physico-chemical part of the issue.

[FrauBlucher]

I understand that the study and film are not the same. Just following the lead of the conversation.

[Lost Highway]

Can anybody comment whether this is a worthwhile upgrade in regard to the PQ ? I can't find any comparisons and barely any reviews of the Arrow release online.

[tenia]

It most certainly isnt. It's the same HD master, so anything else would be down to the encode. But I dont recall the Universal disc being problematic there, so the upgrade would be even more limited.

[FrauBlucher]

I have the Arrow release. I’m sure a 2k/4k scan would be an upgrade but this current disc does look terrific.