The Matrices (The Wachowskis, 1999-2021)

[flyonthewall2983]

It's everlasting gift to the world

[colinr0380]

It strikes me that the best way to spin this Matrix reboot would be as a 'Fire Walks With Me'-style prequel showing one of the previous 'failed' Neos going through the inevitable cycle of death and return to the Matrix. You could probably mine that for a lot of pathos and ideas of moving towards a pre-ordained tragic fate for that Neo and their band of humans. (Especially in a post Rogue One world!)

[matrixschmatrix]

This thread is going to interfere with my namesearching terribly

[DFR]

One of the more frustrating aspects of proposed prequel/reboot thing planned for The Matrix franchise is how, inevitably, it will end up being not as smart or original as the Wachowskis' version. Mind you, the original wasn't mind-blowingly intellectual or anything. But it was smarter than your average actioner. I appreciated that elements of Nietzsche's "On Truth and Lying in a Non-Moral Sense" could be found in Cypher's character and his desire to remain ignorantly blissful. I appreciated that it was trying.

Whoever writes the new version is probably not going to be as interested in thoughtful associations between science-fiction and philosophy; rather, they will be writer hired to develop the intellectual property. It will be the result of trying to continue/revalidate a successful franchise, not the result of trying to create something innovative (in many ways, this was the problem with Reloaded and Revolutions as well).

Of course, I could be wrong, and the new screenwriter(s) might incorporate some nuggets of philosophy that will make the new film talked about for years to come. But I have a feeling that the eventual film will be rooted in regurgitating the franchise and its commercial possibilities, as opposed to anything that makes the viewer think.

[J Adams]

Interstellar needs to be rebooted ASAP.

[colinr0380]

Will Smith on turning down playing Neo in The Matrix

[DarkImbecile]

A fourth Matrix has been greenlit, with Keanu Reeves and Carrie Ann-Moss returning and Lana Wachowski writing and directing

[domino harvey]

Someone, somewhere asked for this?

[mfunk9786]

They did?

[domino harvey]

Yes?

[mfunk9786]

Oh, I was just saying that no one asked for this.

[domino harvey]

Third base!

[Never Cursed]

Oh, this totally makes sense to me - the gross action movie masses love Reeves as John Wick, and he retains an large amount of cred among nerdier sci-fi fans from his Matrix days (if you don't believe me, just look at the popular online reaction to his appearance in the upcoming videogame Cyberpunk 2077). Yeah he's kind of a meme, but he's a meme people like, and doing this now nets both of these audiences for sure.

[domino harvey]

He’s some kind of patroned saint on Reddit, he’s def a meme at this point but he also does seem like a good guy so better him than Reddit’s other personality bolstering achievement President Trump

[aox]

I still haven't seen the third one.

I haven't seen the first one in 15 years, but have heard recently it hasn't aged well.

[mfunk9786]

[domino harvey]

A man wrote that Tweet, so I’m guessing it went over well

[mfunk9786]

One of those situations where something is pitched too perfectly to be offensive

[knives]

I still haven't seen the third one.

I haven't seen the first one in 15 years, but have heard recently it hasn't aged well.

I rewatched them a year or so ago and they're pretty good, but the best thing to come from them is still that one episode of Kids Next Door.

[Big Ben]

He’s some kind of patroned saint on Reddit, he’s def a meme at this point but he also does seem like a good guy so better him than Reddit’s other personality bolstering achievement President Trump

It's way broader than that. He's popular everywhere with people my age. Go anywhere and people my age will tell you how much they love Keanu. And thankfully it's because he's a good guy.

[black&huge]

I haven't seen the first one in 15 years, but have heard recently it hasn't aged well.

News to me. I think the first one is one of the most well aged films, generally speaking and especially from the late 90's.

[colinr0380]

He’s some kind of patroned saint on Reddit, he’s def a meme at this point but he also does seem like a good guy so better him than Reddit’s other personality bolstering achievement President Trump

It's way broader than that. He's popular everywhere with people my age. Go anywhere and people my age will tell you how much they love Keanu. And thankfully it's because he's a good guy.

I suppose that the "Sad Keanu" meme played its part too!

[dda1996a]

I haven't seen the first one in 15 years, but have heard recently it hasn't aged well.

News to me. I think the first one is one of the most well aged films, generally speaking and especially from the late 90's.

Haven't watched the sequels in forever, but I remember finding the first film's ideas and gun-fu action to be sorely undermined by it's insistence on cliched Hollywood stereotypes and narrative beats. It's still a good movie, but it was harder for me to take all the "kissing to save someone" and the whole "The One" seriously now.
I should probably rewatch the sequels, but if there was a series that didn't need a fourth movie, it would be basically every fourth sequel recently made, so this isn't really surprising (Toy Story 4 just broke into the billion club, are we still surprised these get announced? See also the new Bill & Ted)

[Never Cursed]

Cute teaser website announces a trailer on Thursday

[RIP Film]

Trailer: https://youtu.be/JIThBMSABTo

I was worried it was going to be another fan service reach around, but it looks sufficiently ambitious. I like that they’re cooling down on the mythology and seemingly going back to a coherent story, with Neo being reinserted back into the matrix or reborn into it?