Fuck The Deaf

[skuhn8]

I need them whenever i watch films at night as I live in a townhouse built like a small ampitheatre. someone coughs and I've got two tiny kids screaming their goddamn heads off in the nursery. This sucks! [had cinema room all set up in basement, bulb blew in projector after just 300 hours and I can't scrape together funds for a replacemnt--after 9 months now!!!!!]--ok, enough about me. put the friggin subtitles back, CC...uh I mean C.

[manicsounds]

Since I show many English Language films in my English class,
subtitles are very useful for students trying to listen and read.

If Criterion stops english subtitles, i'll still buy their stuff. wont stop me.

I know that Universal US and Paramount US subtitle even the extra material, including captioning the english language extras. (on most, not all releases)

As for many European dvds, all the extras are subbed in many different languages from most major companies.

And when I get old, i would like to watch Criterion dvds without turning up the volume on my hearing aid.

[HerrSchreck]

Well somebody's gotta sit down paid by the hour I guess, map out the dialog & break it out into display-timing blocs, and find a way to get the meat & potatoes onscreen in stretches of rapid speech & fat monologs in particular. Then someone has to type it in & encode it. Unless it's a staff person on salary (I suppose someone could rifle about thru all their booklets & see if it's all the same person for English subbing... foreign languages obviously require translators variegated). If there was a staff person for english & they truly are cutting this extra then that's just lousy business & a bit rude actually.

Given that a good chunk of Criterion titles are in a foreign language, I highly doubt they have one person handling all the subtitling..

I feel like such a nitpicker, but this is happening to me 2 &3 times a day minimum: is there a haze wafting thru here where folks can't read anymore? I wrote

foreign languages obviously require translators variegated

I wondered aloud whether or not it was one staff person doing the english-films' subbing. Obviously it's Hoaglund & Richie, for example, on the Japanese stuff, etc etc.

[toiletduck!]

Don't worry Schrecko, it's not you...

With Criterion bringing the apocalypse upon us in 2006, there's just no time to read every little sentence anymore. You don't want to be caught mid-post when the Rapture comes, do you?

-Toilet Dcuk

[HerrSchreck]

I can't believe they are releasing this piece of shit instead of what they should be releasing.
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You never saw FUCK THE DEAF? It's the Tajikistan release version of TWO PEOPLE by Dreyer. Shame on you.

[richast2]

I thought it was the unreleased sequel to Fat Girl?

[HerrSchreck]

Don't worry Schrecko, it's not you...

With Criterion bringing the apocalypse upon us in 2006, there's just no time to read every little sentence anymore. You don't want to be caught mid-post when the Rapture comes, do you?

-Toilet Dcuk

Count Dcuckinini! Where the hellya been? It feel like a dcuk's age!

[Antoine Doinel]

Well somebody's gotta sit down paid by the hour I guess, map out the dialog & break it out into display-timing blocs, and find a way to get the meat & potatoes onscreen in stretches of rapid speech & fat monologs in particular. Then someone has to type it in & encode it. Unless it's a staff person on salary (I suppose someone could rifle about thru all their booklets & see if it's all the same person for English subbing... foreign languages obviously require translators variegated). If there was a staff person for english & they truly are cutting this extra then that's just lousy business & a bit rude actually.

Given that a good chunk of Criterion titles are in a foreign language, I highly doubt they have one person handling all the subtitling..

I feel like such a nitpicker, but this is happening to me 2 &3 times a day minimum: is there a haze wafting thru here where folks can't read anymore? I wrote

foreign languages obviously require translators variegated

I wondered aloud whether or not it was one staff person doing the english-films' subbing. Obviously it's Hoaglund & Richie, for example, on the Japanese stuff, etc etc.

Right, and if you read the rest of my post you would've seen that I was further speculating that they hire out the subtitling instead of doing it inhouse.

[HerrSchreck]

but .. I uh (squirm) wasn't (fidget), talking about that par-- o forget it never mind. It's not important.

[toiletduck!]

Count Dcuckinini! Where the hellya been? It feel like a dcuk's age!

I DID get caught mid-post by the Rapture. But all that sunshine and happiness got boring, so I came back here, where the men are men, the women are Annie, and even talking gorillas aren't safe from mockery.

Feels like home.

-Toilet Dcuk

[HerrSchreck]

Wow so it really is true. No subtitles on D&C or HARLAN.

FUCK THE DEAF indeed I guess. I wonder if a market study preceded that determining How Many Deaf Folks they will lose as customers, versus how much they spend on Subtitle-Person-Costs... resulting in,

"Fuck the deaf."

"But Mister Becker, don't you think that's a bit--"

"I'm not thinking anything. The calculator is doing the thinking."

[Michael]

How terrible and depressing. My partner of 9 years is deaf and he relies on English or Spanish subs and CC (closed captions) since he uses both languages. He wears a hearing aid to pick up the audio but not enough to completely understand the dialogues. When Grey Gardens first came out on DVD, I shared it with Pedrito (my partner) and it instantly became one of his all-time favorite films. I don't think he has watched a movie as many times as Grey Gardens. I just can't imagine him missing out the immense joy of watching this film every time without the subs. This is a very difficult news for me to take and most of all, to share with Pedrito. It pains me profoundly to see what he has to go through things like what Criterion is doing - discriminating against its deaf and hard of hearing friends.

[HerrSchreck]

Interesting that this practice coincides with a major Bunuel release, perhaps the greatest hearing impaired director ever to stalk the surface of the earth.

At first I thought this was all just speculation based on site-specs of "extras" but take a look at Gary's review of HARLAN & DAZED. It's for real, folks.

[Narshty]

Actually, Harlan does have subs.

[Michael]

I just checked Beaver and Harlan does have subs. Thank god! But Dazed and Confused doesn't. But it could have "closed captions" like The Royal Tenenbaums. Can anyone please check that for me?

[Schkura]

Don't see that info anywhere but just emailed a friend who has an advanced copy.

[HerrSchreck]

Actually, Harlan does have subs.

Whoops. Was looking at "edition details" and then the primary menu for the disc. I guess they stuffed the subtitle option under "supplements" on the menu.



Working on about 1.5 hrs sleep, a bit fried.

[Ashirg]

Criterion has rarely labeled subtitles on the menu screen for English-language films. They usually can be accessed by subtitle button on your remote control.

[rlendog]

I can live with the letterboxing, although I'd prefer if they stopped it. I HATE the new logo. But this is really obnoxious. I was going to preorder Canterbury Tales - have long been curious to see it - but now will probably have to hold off. Maybe they are doing this to draw attention away from their other stupid recent moves, like the new logo.

[skuhn8]

I can live with the letterboxing, although I'd prefer if they stopped it. I HATE the new logo. But this is really obnoxious. I was going to preorder Canterbury Tales - have long been curious to see it - but now will probably have to hold off. Maybe they are doing this to draw attention away from their other stupid recent moves, like the new logo.

CC interoffice memo:

From the Desk of Peter Becker: Staff, what are we going to do about this slew of stupid recent movies we've been putting out? People are starting to notice. Was on the criterionforum.org the other day...and...well...I think they're on to us! We need a smoke screen quick until we can get that fucking Ozu box patched together. Now, the new logo is just a stop-gap solution; I need some serious thinking-outside-the-amaray-case here.

From the Desk of Lee Kline: What's this about an Ozu box? You mean...wait, I've had the boys working round the clock on the Police Acadamy set! Shit, ok. Don't panic. Let's toss the subtitles--that should fuck with their heads. If that doesn't work we'll rewrite the mission statement in wing-dings.

[stroszeck]

CC interoffice memo:

From the Desk of Peter Becker: Staff, what are we going to do about this slew of stupid recent movies we've been putting out? People are starting to notice. Was on the criterionforum.org the other day...and...well...I think they're on to us! We need a smoke screen quick until we can get that fucking Ozu box patched together. Now, the new logo is just a stop-gap solution; I need some serious thinking-outside-the-amaray-case here.

From the Desk of Lee Kline: What's this about an Ozu box? You mean...wait, I've had the boys working round the clock on the Police Acadamy set! Shit, ok. Don't panic. Let's toss the subtitles--that should fuck with their heads. If that doesn't work we'll rewrite the mission statement in wing-dings.

Funny..........but sadly because its probably true.

[HerrSchreck]

I like fucking the deaf. You can yell and scream while pounding them hurling obscenities so vicious that the viens pop in your temples. Laughing & pointing & snapping your fingers by their ears when their eyes are closed getting slam fucked. Not with a bang but with a whimper.

They may be losing CC from their spiritual team but they still rest easy never having to hear Fran Drescher's laugh-honk. Frigging hair-cancer.

[tryavna]

I like fucking the deaf. You can yell and scream while pounding them hurling obscenities so vicious that the viens pop in your temples. Laughing & pointing & snapping your fingers by their ears when their eyes are closed getting slam fucked. Not with a bang but with a whimper.

For some reason, this (obviously sarcastic) rant reminds me of Lorenza Mazzetti's short film Together, which is on BFI's "Free Cinema" boxset and which I watched for the first time recently. Schreck, when you were a little vampire, did you and your friends ever push a deaf-mute into the river?

[Michael]

Schreck, when you were a little vampire, did you and your friends ever push a deaf-mute into the river?

No wonder why you're in North Carolina. Deaf people find "deaf-mute" - a way very ancient label - offensive. After living with my deaf partner for 9 years and having many deaf friends, it's hard for me to take this kind of scarcasm.

[tryavna]

Schreck, when you were a little vampire, did you and your friends ever push a deaf-mute into the river?

No wonder why you're in North Carolina. Deaf people find "deaf-mute" - a way very ancient label - offensive. After living with my deaf partner for 9 years and having many deaf friends, it's hard for me to take this kind of scarcasm.

You might want to take this up with the BFI, too. From their accompanying booklet: "Writtne by Horne, Together is a poetic study -- but not a typical romanticisation -- of London's East End, with its bombsites, narrow streets, riversides, warehouses, markets and pubs. It follows the solitary existence of two deaf-mute dockers, whose disability isolates them from the world around them...."

Last time I heard, the BFI wasn't centered in North Carolina....