Awards Season 2023
- therewillbeblus
- Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2015 7:40 pm
Re: Awards Season 2023
I know a lot of people connected with Past Lives, but I don't think it carries the epic cumulation of emotional payoff audiences want to give a top prize, even in subtlety. As far as recent Asian stories breaking through to American mass appeal, it feels more like Minari than Drive My Car
I also don't think Saltburn stands a chance at the show. It's so divisive but not in a way that seems to be provoking much thought, and I think the films that usually break through under these conditions are clearer and more pointed satires like Triangle of Sadness. Saltburn isn't even really satirizing the thing people think it is, and I think that's confusing audiences, but I do think a lot of people are connecting to it aesthetically, as twisted performance, and to Fennell as a visual storyteller.
I also don't think Saltburn stands a chance at the show. It's so divisive but not in a way that seems to be provoking much thought, and I think the films that usually break through under these conditions are clearer and more pointed satires like Triangle of Sadness. Saltburn isn't even really satirizing the thing people think it is, and I think that's confusing audiences, but I do think a lot of people are connecting to it aesthetically, as twisted performance, and to Fennell as a visual storyteller.
- lacritfan
- Life is one big kevyip
- Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:39 pm
- Location: Los Angeles
Re: Awards Season 2023
National Society of Film Critics
BEST PICTURE: Past Lives
BEST DIRECTOR: Jonathan Glazer, The Zone of Interest
BEST ACTRESS: Sandra Hüller, Anatomy of a Fall and The Zone of Interest
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Da’Vine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers
BEST ACTOR: Andrew Scott, All of Us Strangers
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: Charles Melton, May December
BEST SCREENPLAY: Samy Burch, May December
BEST FILM NOT IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE: Fallen Leaves
BEST NONFICTION FILM: Menus-Plaisirs — Les Troisgros
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY: Rodrigo Prieto, Killers of the Flower Moon
BEST EXPERIMENTAL FILM: Jean-Luc Godard’s Trailer of a Film That Will Never Exist: Phony Wars
SPECIAL CITATION FOR A FILM AWAITING U.S. DISTRIBUTION: Víctor Erice’s Close Your Eyes
FILM HERITAGE AWARDS:
— Criterion Channel, for an adventurous, wide-ranging, finely curated selection of films, ranging from American independents to world cinema to short films to classic Hollywood, making readily available the kind of repertory cinema that every city should have.
— Facets, Kim’s Video, Scarecrow Video and Vidiots, for maintaining wide-reaching libraries of films on disc and tape and making those libraries available to the general public.
BEST PICTURE: Past Lives
BEST DIRECTOR: Jonathan Glazer, The Zone of Interest
BEST ACTRESS: Sandra Hüller, Anatomy of a Fall and The Zone of Interest
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS: Da’Vine Joy Randolph, The Holdovers
BEST ACTOR: Andrew Scott, All of Us Strangers
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR: Charles Melton, May December
BEST SCREENPLAY: Samy Burch, May December
BEST FILM NOT IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE: Fallen Leaves
BEST NONFICTION FILM: Menus-Plaisirs — Les Troisgros
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY: Rodrigo Prieto, Killers of the Flower Moon
BEST EXPERIMENTAL FILM: Jean-Luc Godard’s Trailer of a Film That Will Never Exist: Phony Wars
SPECIAL CITATION FOR A FILM AWAITING U.S. DISTRIBUTION: Víctor Erice’s Close Your Eyes
FILM HERITAGE AWARDS:
— Criterion Channel, for an adventurous, wide-ranging, finely curated selection of films, ranging from American independents to world cinema to short films to classic Hollywood, making readily available the kind of repertory cinema that every city should have.
— Facets, Kim’s Video, Scarecrow Video and Vidiots, for maintaining wide-reaching libraries of films on disc and tape and making those libraries available to the general public.
- Matt
- Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:58 pm
Awards Season 2023
Someone on Twitter the other day referred to Emerald Fennell as “Peridot Parsley” and that’s funnier to me than anything in Saltburn.therewillbeblus wrote: I also don't think Saltburn stands a chance at the show
Honestly I wouldn’t mind Rosamund Pike winning Best Supporting Actress, but I also don’t think there’s a chance of that happening.
- thirtyframesasecond
- Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:48 pm
Re: Awards Season 2023
The Globes seemed to play to the form guide. Best Film, Best Director, Best Supporting Actor and Actress are probably locked down now, and Best Actor and Actress are a flip of a coin. Anatomy of a Fall is probably the outsider with momentum now.
- MistressAmerica
- Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:07 am
Re: Awards Season 2023
I am genuinely curious about Adapted Screenplay, I know that, with WGA being delayed to post-Oscars, Anatomy of a Fall's Globe win will probably be it's first and only precursor piece of hardware, and I could see Oppenheimer vs. Barbie vs. Poor Things for the Adapted Screenplay.thirtyframesasecond wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2024 11:23 am The Globes seemed to play to the form guide. Best Film, Best Director, Best Supporting Actor and Actress are probably locked down now, and Best Actor and Actress are a flip of a coin. Anatomy of a Fall is probably the outsider with momentum now.
- Matt
- Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:58 pm
Re: Awards Season 2023
Welp, I got that one wrong. No SAG nominations for Past Lives or Saltburn but three for American Fiction and two for The Holdovers. These are the only crossover films with the Independent Spirit Awards, and the only actors with nominations for both awards are Jeffrey Wright, Sterling K. Brown, and Da’Vine Joy Randolph. It’s going to be a real shock if Da’Vine Joy Randolph doesn’t walk away with every major award from here on out.Matt wrote:I don’t think it will necessarily be a surprise, but Past Lives is going the be “The Little Indie That Could” this year.
- colinr0380
- Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 8:30 pm
- Location: Chapel-en-le-Frith, Derbyshire, UK
- Apperson
- Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:47 pm
- Location: Oxfordshire, UK
- Apperson
- Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:47 pm
- Location: Oxfordshire, UK
Re: Awards Season 2023
Btw are we doing any sort of predictions contest this year? I'll happily participate if we are.
- Computer Raheem
- Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:45 pm
Re: Awards Season 2023
Second this; I have a few hotshot predictions I need to fire off into the ether \:D/Apperson wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:21 pm Btw are we doing any sort of predictions contest this year? I'll happily participate if we are.
- Toland's Mitchell
- Joined: Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:42 pm
Re: Awards Season 2023
The usual host of the predictions contest is on hiatus. So somebody else would have to step up and do it. It's probably too late to start the contest for the nominations, but I don't see why it couldn't be done for the winners after the noms are announced. Again though, somebody has to be willing to host. I'd be interested in playing.
- TechnicolorAcid
- Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:43 pm
Re: Awards Season 2023
I could be interested in hosting. Is it like announcing who got the winners correct or is there more to it?
- Never Cursed
- Such is life on board the Redoutable
- Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:22 am
Re: Awards Season 2023
Not sure where to put this, but: amid a last-minute push by the To Leslie people to get Ava DuVernay's Origin Oscar nominations, film critic Jourdain Seales has spoken on Twitter about something pretty rancid that DuVernay's distribution company ARRAY does with the films it buys. Specifically, following a distribution deal the company signed with Netflix in 2016, ARRAY has a pretty well-documented pattern of:
1. Buying small, independently-produced, POC-led films at American festivals, frequently Sundance or Tribeca
2. Licensing them, under the terms of the deal, to exclusive streaming distribution with Netflix for 3 years
3. Following the expiration of the exclusive distribution period, yanking them off of Netflix and not distributing them permanently, in any other capacity
Seales named Mississippi Damned, Residue (astonishingly still on ARRAY's website with Netflix branding even though ARRAY took it off Netflix), and Burning Cane specifically as having been affected by this practice, but I'm sure many other films have been as well. True to what she said, I can't find any place still streaming these three films, offering them for rent, or selling a non-bootleg physical copy of them. Just something to think about if Origin begins a season of junkets starting tomorrow
1. Buying small, independently-produced, POC-led films at American festivals, frequently Sundance or Tribeca
2. Licensing them, under the terms of the deal, to exclusive streaming distribution with Netflix for 3 years
3. Following the expiration of the exclusive distribution period, yanking them off of Netflix and not distributing them permanently, in any other capacity
Seales named Mississippi Damned, Residue (astonishingly still on ARRAY's website with Netflix branding even though ARRAY took it off Netflix), and Burning Cane specifically as having been affected by this practice, but I'm sure many other films have been as well. True to what she said, I can't find any place still streaming these three films, offering them for rent, or selling a non-bootleg physical copy of them. Just something to think about if Origin begins a season of junkets starting tomorrow
- domino harvey
- Dot Com Dom
- Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:42 pm
Re: Awards Season 2023
This whole Origin push is truly out of left field, especially since it only has a chance of being nominated for Best Picture and that’s it. And the film apparently closes with Ghost Trayvon Martin showing up to affirm the work of the author of Caste, which is so tasteless that I’m kind of in awe
- soundchaser
- Leave Her to Beaver
- Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:32 am
Re: Awards Season 2023
Worth noting that Searles is a pretty incendiary figure with a questionable relationship to the truth at times. I'd be interested to see someone else reporting on this before taking it 100% at face value.
- Never Cursed
- Such is life on board the Redoutable
- Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:22 am
Re: Awards Season 2023
Apparently they were also hoping to squeeze Carey Mulligan out of Actress, but I imagine they won't manage that even if they get a Picture nom (though we won't have to wait long to find out). There's a lot of the script that is...abominably tasteless, especially if you have any historical knowledge of some of the people and places it depicts, so I'm rolling out for it as soon as it gets here.domino harvey wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:52 pmThis whole Origin push is truly out of left field, especially since it only has a chance of being nominated for Best Picture and that’s it
-
beamish14
- Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 7:07 pm
Re: Awards Season 2023
I can’t stand DuVernay’s work, and that makes me incensed. She owns the distribution rights to at least two of Haile Gerima’s films, and we’ll never get them on Blu-Ray
- CSM126
- Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:22 pm
- Location: The Room
- Contact:
Re: Awards Season 2023
What would she gain from withholding films from distribution? Moronic practice, especially from someone who just a few years ago was calling out Criterion for not acquiring more POC-led films (and didn’t Criterion respond that she was the one holding up their attempts to get her early films put out?).
- Never Cursed
- Such is life on board the Redoutable
- Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:22 am
Re: Awards Season 2023
She can sell or lease the rights to other distributors for presumably higher prices. Criterion Channel itself is a good example of this right now: they're currently streaming The Burial of Kojo, the first film by Blitz Bazawule (who went on to direct a film for Beyonce and then the new The Color Purple adaptation), which used to be on Netflix after ARRAY bought it, but disappeared from streaming for a while.
- Peacock
- Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:47 pm
- Location: Scotland
Re: Awards Season 2023
Not quite.CSM126 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:07 pm What would she gain from withholding films from distribution? Moronic practice, especially from someone who just a few years ago was calling out Criterion for not acquiring more POC-led films (and didn’t Criterion respond that she was the one holding up their attempts to get her early films put out?).
DuVernay said that Criterion had passed on her own film, “Middle of Nowhere” (2012), for which she became the first Black filmmaker to win the directing prize at Sundance. “There wasn’t any rights issue,” said DuVernay, who owns the movie. “It was just a pass.” In an emailed statement, Becker said he had no record or memory of this, and offered to release “Middle of Nowhere” on Blu-ray.
“If Ava would want to work on a special edition with us, we would be honored and would just need her help to get Lionsgate to say yes,” he wrote, referring to the film’s current distributor.
- Jean-Luc Garbo
- Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:55 am
- Contact:
Re: Awards Season 2023
Also Isabel Sandoval's Lingua Franca which had been on Netflix for awhile as per the deal referenced above.Never Cursed wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 8:27 pmShe can sell or lease the rights to other distributors for presumably higher prices. Criterion Channel itself is a good example of this right now: they're currently streaming The Burial of Kojo, the first film by Blitz Bazawule (who went on to direct a film for Beyonce and then the new The Color Purple adaptation), which used to be on Netflix after ARRAY bought it, but disappeared from streaming for a while.
- spectre
- Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:52 am
Re: Awards Season 2023
Which two films?beamish14 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 7:56 pm I can’t stand DuVernay’s work, and that makes me incensed. She owns the distribution rights to at least two of Haile Gerima’s films, and we’ll never get them on Blu-Ray
-
beamish14
- Joined: Fri May 18, 2018 7:07 pm
- spectre
- Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:52 am
Re: Awards Season 2023
Thanks!
I was having a look online just now and Gerima seems to take a different view of the partnership (or at least did in 2022):
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/hail ... 235185475/
I was having a look online just now and Gerima seems to take a different view of the partnership (or at least did in 2022):
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/hail ... 235185475/
Though he also makes this admission toward the end of the piece, which suggests that he may not be up on all of the fine print regarding distribution on streaming platforms:Perhaps the most significant element of Gerima’s partnership with Array was the distributor’s decision to re-release “Sankofa.” Before 2021, the film had rarely been seen since its debut. Since they weren’t getting any support from showbiz, Gerima and Aina had acted as their own distributors, organizing screenings in different cities as often as they could. But they didn’t have a sustainable method to make the film accessible to audiences until DuVernay stepped in, having seen Gerima’s work years before and finding it formative to her own filmmaking. Before “Sankofa” made it to Netflix last year, Gerima had given up hope that he’d ever have a consistent way to share his work.
“Until I met Ava, who proposed her vision, her dream, and became my die-hard supporter, I didn’t think there was such an outlet for [‘Sankofa’],” he said. “In fact, we distributed the film, and we got tired of the war and fighting we had to wage to show it. We really stopped showing it out of defeat. So her coming now and resurrecting ‘Sankofa’ into another life is a complete pleasure for me.”
“Well, I don’t know Netflix. I’m a very backward person. I don’t even possess a cell phone. I don’t know nobody. All I know is Ava”
- Beloved Aunt
- Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2021 7:28 pm
Re: Awards Season 2023
I wonder if this will be the year Jeffrey Wright finally gets the Academy Award recognition he so richly deserves (many times over)? I'm guessing...no?