The 1986 Mini-List

[swo17]

I went into Parting Glances expecting to have a fun time with a film were Buscemi’s role is exaggerated by the poster.

Ha, in addition to being one of Buscemi's first roles, this is also the debut for Kathy Kinney aka

Spoiler

Mimi from The Drew Carey Show

[knives]

Yeah, when she showed up I cackled. A really delightful surprise of the nostalgic kind.

[swo17]

And it's a pretty good meaty role too

[knives]

I hope it’s not too late to beg people to start making Kuchar’s Weather Diary films, the first being eligible this month, a regular part of their viewings. The premise to each is basically the same with Kuchar going to Oklahoma during Tornado season and experiencing life through his odd lense while trapped in a hotel. This one really focuses on the weather, the only other I’ve seen is about being stuck in a hotel and how miserable that is.

Kuchar’s narration is amazing with his thick accent talking in a way where you don’t know if his complaining or in absolute ecstasy. Probably both.

[knives]

Submitted my list. There’s one little film that made that I just have to bring up. John Smith’s brilliant little Om which is a hilarious little film that I just can’t bring myself to talk about in order to promote.

[swo17]

ELIGIBLE TITLES FOR 1986

VOTE THROUGH AUGUST 31

Please post in this thread if you think anything needs to change about the list of eligible titles.

Reminder that lists are due today. If you've already voted and want to change anything but can't find the link, PM me and I'll send it

[swo17]

The 1986 List



##. Film (Director) points/votes(top 5 placements, aka likely votes in decade list)/highest ranking

01. Blue Velvet (David Lynch) 318/15(9)/1(x6)
02. Le Rayon vert [The Green Ray] (Éric Rohmer) 228/12(8)/2(x2)
03. The Fly (David Cronenberg) 196/10(4)/1(x2)
04. Down by Law (Jim Jarmusch) 181/11(5)/2(x2)
05. Hannah and Her Sisters (Woody Allen) 171/10(5)/2
06. Mauvais sang [Bad Blood] (Leos Carax) 154/8(4)/1(x2)
07. 恐怖分子 [Kong bu fen zi] [Terrorizers] (Edward Yang) 150/8(4)/1
08. Mona Lisa (Neil Jordan) 141/7(4)/1
09. Something Wild (Jonathan Demme) 134/8(2)/4(x2)
10. Offret [The Sacrifice] (Andrei Tarkovsky) 112/7(2)/1(x2)
11. Varjoja paratiisissa [Shadows in Paradise] (Aki Kaurismäki) 107/6(2)/4
12. Manhunter (Michael Mann) 101/7(1)/4
13. Street of Crocodiles (Stephen & Timothy Quay) 98/5(3)/2
14. True Stories (David Byrne) 96/5(2)/1
15. 盗马贼 [Dao ma zei] [The Horse Thief] (Tian Zhuangzhuang) 88/5(2)/1
(tie) Stand by Me (Rob Reiner) 88/5(2)/2
17. Aliens (James Cameron) 86/6(2)/1
18. Ferris Bueller's Day Off (John Hughes) 76/6/6
19. Ethnic Notions (Marlon Riggs) 67/4(2)/2
20. 戀戀風塵 [Lian lian feng chen] [Dust in the Wind] (Hou Hsiao-hsien) 63/3(2)/4
(tie) Maine Océan (Jacques Rozier) 63/4(1)/1
(tie) Jean de Florette (Claude Berri) 63/4(1)/3
23. Little Shop of Horrors (Frank Oz) 60/3(1)/2
24. 天空の城ラピュタ [Tenkuu no shiro laputa] [Castle in the Sky] (Hayao Miyazaki) 58/4/6
25. 'Round Midnight (Bertrand Tavernier) 55/4/8(x2)
26. Landscape Suicide (James Benning) 50/3(1)/3
27. Comrades (Bill Douglas) 49/3/6
28. Ruthless People (David Zucker, Jim Abrahams & Jerry Zucker) 47/4(2)/5(x2)
29. Working Girls (Lizzie Borden) 46/4(1)/5
30. Peggy Sue Got Married (Francis Ford Coppola) 43/3/6
31. Hoosiers (David Anspaugh) 42/2(1)/3
(tie) 夢みるように眠りたい [Yume miru yō ni nemuritai] [To Sleep So as to Dream] (Kaizō Hayashi) 42/3(1)/3
33. 刀馬旦 [Dao ma dan] [Peking Opera Blues] (Tsui Hark) 41/3(1)/3
(tie) Platoon (Oliver Stone) 41/3/6
35. Tenue de soirée [Ménage] (Bertrand Blier) 40/3(1)/2
36. Big Trouble in Little China (John Carpenter) 39/3(1)/2
37. A Room with a View (James Ivory) 38/2/7(x2)
38. Peter Gabriel: Sledgehammer (Stephen R. Johnson) 37/3/8
39. Golden Eighties (Chantal Akerman) 36/2(1)/3
(tie) Письма мёртвого человека [Pisma myortvogo cheloveka] [Dead Man's Letters] (Konstantin Lopushansky) 36/2(1)/3
(tie) L'Île au trésor [Treasure Island] (Raúl Ruiz) 36/2/6
(tie) Sid and Nancy (Alex Cox) 36/2/8(x2)
(tie) The Color of Money (Martin Scorsese) 36/4/10
44. Handsworth Songs (John Akomfrah) 35/2/6
45. Кин-дза-дза! [Kin-dza-dza] (Georgi Danelia) 34/2/9(x2)
(tie) Lucas (David Seltzer) 34/3/8
47. Krysař [The Pied Piper] (Jiří Barta) 32/3/10
48. Ginger e Fred (Federico Fellini) 30/2/7
(tie) Loose Corner (Anita Thacher) 30/3/13
50. The Name of the Rose (Jean-Jacques Annaud) 29/2(1)/2
(tie) Salvador (Oliver Stone) 29/2/9

ALSO-RANS

El amor brujo [Love, the Magician] (Carlos Saura) 28/2/8
From Beyond (Stuart Gordon) 28/2/11
The Big Easy (Jim McBride) 26/2(1)/3
River's Edge (Tim Hunter) 26/2/9
Rosa Luxemburg (Margarethe von Trotta) 25/2/7
Children of a Lesser God (Randa Haines) 25/3/10
52 Pick-Up (John Frankenheimer) 24/3/12
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (Leonard Nimoy) 24/3/14
The Great Mouse Detective (John Musker, Ron Clements, Dave Michener & Burny Mattinson) 23/2/11
Jimi Plays Monterey (D.A. Pennebaker & Chris Hegedus) 23/3/10
Down and Out in Beverly Hills (Paul Mazursky) 23/3/16

The Mosquito Coast (Peter Weir) 22/2/9
Sleepwalk (Sara Driver) 20/2/10
Weather Diary 1 (George Kuchar) 19/2/8
Macskafogó [Cat City] (Béla Ternovszky) 18/2/11
Ο μελισσοκόμος [O melissokomos] [The Beekeeper] (Theo Angelopoulos) 17/2/15
She's Gotta Have It (Spike Lee) 15/2/13
皇家戰士 [Wong ga jin si] [Royal Warriors] (David Chung) 14/2/18
執法先鋒 [Zhi fa xian feng] [Righting Wrongs] (Corey Yuen) 11/2/20

Om (John Smith) 9/2/19
Home of the Brave (Laurie Anderson) 6/2/21
Invaders from Mars (Tobe Hooper) 6/2/22

ORPHANS

Film (Director) highest ranking

Mélo (Alain Resnais) 15
Sweet Liberty (Alan Alda) 16
Santa Fe (Axel Corti) 23
Parting Glances (Bill Sherwood) 14
That's Life! (Blake Edwards) 15
Crimes of the Heart (Bruce Beresford) 22
Veneno para las hadas [Poison for the Fairies] (Carlos Enrique Taboada) 10
大閱兵 [Da yue bing] [The Big Parade] (Chen Kaige) 12
Precious Images (Chuck Workman) 25
Jean de Florette/Manon des sources (Claude Berri) 13
Manon des sources [Manon of the Spring] (Claude Berri) 4
Inspecteur Lavardin (Claude Chabrol) 23
Heartbreak Ridge (Clint Eastwood) 13
Shake! Otis at Monterey (D.A. Pennebaker & Chris Hegedus) 22
Caravaggio (Derek Jarman) 17
Easterhouse: Whistling in the Dark (Derek Jarman) 18
The Smiths: The Queen Is Dead (Derek Jarman) 17
Flodder (Dick Maas) 20
Silip [Daughters of Eve] (Elwood Perez) 9
Rear Window (Ernie Gehr) 14
De aanslag [The Assault] (Fons Rademakers) 4
Mix-Up ou Meli-melo (Françoise Romand) 24
Multi-Handicapped (Frederick Wiseman) 6
十手舞 [Jittemai] [Death Shadows] (Hideo Gosha) 3
Legal Eagles (Ivan Reitman) 15
Two Friends (Jane Campion) 12
Routine Pleasures (Jean-Pierre Gorin) 11
Labyrinth (Jim Henson) 19
When the Wind Blows (Jimmy T. Murakami) 12
Caprice (Joanna Hogg) 21
A Deadly Business (John Korty) 24
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (John McNaughton) 18
英雄本色 [Ying hung boon sik] [A Better Tomorrow] (John Woo) 18
The Singing Detective (Jon Amiel) 5
He Stands in a Desert Counting the Seconds of His Life (Jonas Mekas) 19
原振俠與衛斯理 [Yuen chun hap yu wai see lee] [The Seventh Curse] (Lam Nai-choi) 16
Notte d'estate con profilo greco, occhi a mandorla e odore di basilico [Summer Night with Greek Profile, Almond Eyes and Scent of Basil] (Lina Wertmüller) 12
Amorosa (Mai Zetterling) 7
La gran fiesta (Marcos Zurinaga) 11
子猫物語 [Koneko monogatari] [The Adventures of Milo and Otis] (Masanori Hata) 10
Heartburn (Mike Nichols) 19
Magdalena Viraga (Nina Menkes) 4
Matador (Pedro Almodóvar) 21
Crocodile Dundee (Peter Faiman) 6
Ga, ga, chwała bohaterom [Glory to the Heroes] (Piotr Szulkin) 8
Mammame (Raúl Ruiz) 3
Mémoire des apparences [Life Is a Dream] (Raúl Ruiz) 9
Richard III (Raúl Ruiz) 7
Link (Richard Franklin) 9
The Hitcher (Robert Harmon) 4
F/X (Robert Mandel) 8
The Mission (Roland Joffé) 2
The Morning After (Sidney Lumet) 7
Night Music (Stan Brakhage) 21
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 (Tobe Hooper) 8
X: The Unheard Music (W.T. Morgan) 25
Der Rosenkönig [The Rose King] (Werner Schroeter) 5
Black Power in America: Myth... or Reality? (William Greaves) 6

18 lists submitted

[knives]

Thanks so much. Also, I guess this is what it feels like when your number becomes the number one (though in this case I guess that was predictable. Also thanks for the other voter who appreciates Ratigan, the world’s greatest criminal mind.

[therewillbeblus]

Thanks swo! Wow, all my orphans were in my top ten..

1. Mauvais Sang
2. Down By Law
3. Blue Velvet
4. Something Wild
5. Hannah and Her Sisters
6. Treasure Island
7. Amorosa
8. The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2
9. Life is a Dream
10. Poison for the Fairies

[TechnicolorAcid]

Thanks so much. Also, I guess this is what it feels like when your number becomes the number one (though in this case I guess that was predictable. Also thanks for the other voter who appreciates Ratigan, the world’s greatest criminal mind.

That was me I believe, I grew up with that film a lot so it really felt like a no brainer. Anyways my list I believed went:
1. True Stories
2. Aliens
3. Dead Man’s Letters
4. The Fly
5. Stand by Me
6. Ferris Bueller
7. Manhunter
8. Blue Velvet
9. Kin-Dza-Dza
10. Little Shop of Horrors
11. The Great Mouse Detective

Might have one or two misplaced somewhere.

[the preacher]

(tie) Jean de Florette (Claude Berri) 63/4(1)/3
Jean de Florette/Manon des sources (Claude Berri) 13
Manon des sources [Manon of the Spring] (Claude Berri) 4

Curiously, Manon des sources is a (sort of) remake of Pagnol's 1952 film (also a diptych: Manon des sources + Ugolin), whereas Jean de Florette is a prequel written by Pagnol years later but never shot.

[Toland's Mitchell]

I'm surprised at a few rankings. I underestimated Mona Lisa, didn't think it was that well-liked. Conversely, The Sacrifice and Aliens placed a bit lower than I expected. I guess they're not as well-liked as I believed.

Anyway, I don't recall the exact order, but my list included Aliens, The Fly, Stand By Me, Down by Law, The Green Ray, Castle in the Sky, Blue Velvet, Mauvais Sang, and Platoon.

18 lists submitted, an increase from '85, which was an increase from '84. Glad to see more users participating. I think the last three mini-lists are gonna be fun!

[andyli]

It is my first submission and an intense one (not because there are too many good films to choose from this year). I couldn't remember the exact order of my list either, but I'm glad at my little contribution in getting Sleepwalk, El amor brujo and Golden Eighties out of the orphanage. My top choice is Terrorizers, by the way.

[domino harvey]

Yeah this was a brutal year to compile even a good top ten. But 1987 is the opposite and surprisingly easy to reach 25!

[Balthazar]

Thanks swo, and thanks also to knives, whose recommendations for these past few lists have really chimed with my own tastes. I'd never heard of the Weather Diary films before, but a viewing of 1 earlier this month was enough to put it in the upper reaches of my list. It had me from the bathos of the kids' reaction to 'what kind of bird do you think it is?', if that's not too obscure a reference.

Prior recs for which I'm particularly grateful: So Is This by Michael Snow in April, and Harry & Son in June. Which I then promptly forgot to vote for.

The latest list was most memorable, though, for the discovery of Maine Ocean, which I should have put higher than 9th or whatever it was because it's scarcely left my mind since. I didn't think Rozier (or anyone) had been able to rebottle the wonder of Du cote d'Orouet. But he all but does here, which I now see various forum members have attested to in years gone by.

[therewillbeblus]

Wow, I totally forgot about Maine Ocean. Would've made my top five. Oh well

[knives]

Thanks for the compliment. Glad I could help out a little. Speaking of helping, my letterboxd cheat sheets are a good way to make sure you don’t forget favorites.

[Matt]

Here's a crazy thing I just read on the Wikipedia page for Hoosiers:

In April 2017, Vice President (and former governor of Indiana) Mike Pence said that Hoosiers is the "greatest sports movie ever made" while traveling on a flight from Indonesia to Australia with a pool of journalists.

[Beloved Aunt]

F*ck Mike Pence! Hoosiers is probably one of the three sports-related films he's even aware exists. I bet its just the best out of three for him.

PS it's too bad Polanski's Pirates film didn't even make the orphans list (right...?). I thought this forum was one of the very few places in the world that gets that film. its probably the most misunderstood film I've ever seen.

[therewillbeblus]

its probably the most misunderstood film I've ever seen.

That’s some strong hyperbole. I’m genuinely curious why you think so (I like it too)

[Beloved Aunt]

I'm curious too, what film(s) do you think are more misunderstood? Everyone pretty much, with only a very small fraction of the audience as an exception, thinks its evil (which I suppose it is somewhat, but not objectionably so for me, and the only Polanski films I find hard to take are the end of Chinatown and parts of Repulsion, and they're certainly not some of his conspicuously evil films), dim and disgusting. I mean I guess the first and third of those adjectives are correct, but the perception of dimness comes probably from the film not having clear laugh lines or funny conceits, and from its tone being a maybe somewhat uncertain seeming balance between realistic aspects and comedy that is not most people's idea of witty or hilarious in any normal way, and also the kind of old-fashioned sensibility behind the writing, even though its also somewhat revisionist.

[Beloved Aunt]

I'm not at all sure I explained that very well, but I do have a point I was trying to make.