358 Pandora's Box

[ryannichols7]

I'm still really surprised that MOC didn't truly get this right and Criterion is righting the ship for a silent film*. I'll keep the MOC - I thought the extras were all terrific and I love the package, but considering I also never owned the CC DVD (was always waiting for an upgrade!) and it has totally unique extras, I look forward to the new Criterion disc. the tinting on the MOC disc is also something I find interesting...

(*-technically The Passion of Joan of Arc is another example, but that isn't a fair one - Criterion waited for a new restoration of that film, whereas MOC had released theirs much earlier from an earlier master)

[Stefan Andersson]

New details on the restorations of the film:

"the running time of the 2006 version is 133 minutes while the running time of the 2024 edition is 141 minutes. The difference, as restoration supervisor Martin Koerber told us, is due not to frame-rate adjustments but because the “new master is actually a different cut of the film. The differences are all slight—a few frames here or there, different intertitle placements and lengths—but they add up over time.”

Source:
https://www.cineaste.com/spring2025/pandoras-box

[kompromiss]

So the Eureka blu-ray (which, according to dvdcompare, is 134 minutes 25 seconds) is different cut as opposed to Criterion blu-ray?

[Roger Ryan]

And, yet, the four different music scores included on the recent Criterion release are the same ones found on the shorter 2006 restoration? How were these re-synchronized to the image given there is an eight minute difference in running time? Having just got the new disc in the latest flash sale, I've only watched the film through with the first orchestral score but noticed that this first score starts rather arbitrarily during the opening restoration credits. This could indicate an attempt to re-synchronize the score... but starting the music track early implies the film is shorter than before, not longer! Any more info on this?

[ChunkyLover]

I believe the time difference has to do with MoC’s being in 20fps while Criterion’s is in 19fps.