1053 The Gunfighter

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therewillbeblus
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Re: 1053 The Gunfighter

#26 Post by therewillbeblus »

I've rewatched this one a lot over the last few years, but had to check out the new transfer and what a gorgeous release. Of course there's also more meat to pull from this deceptively-slim, philosophically-weighty film. It's an atypical western in many ways, starting with a multitude of de-romanticized ("no glory" as Drucker says) scenes or talk of people killings others outside of fair fighting practices, not abiding by a written or unwritten code. Whether it's the man planning to snipe Ringo or the melancholic recounting of an old friend’s husband getting shot in the back of the head, the actual mutually-cognizant showdowns exist side-by-side with passive blindsided murder, and even the reciprocally-conscious forced-draws aren't consensual between parties. The most haunting death is the one told in story by the widow, because she, Ringo, and we all sit in confusion, impotent to find any 'reason' for this death- a rare move for a western that lives by clear character motives for some kind of logic, even in killing. The way that conversation shifts from horrifying unknowability to meditating on the life of Peck’s child as he asks questions about him, complements two polar sides of this milieu: brutal meaningless death and warm meaningful life.

I've also become more mindful of just how incredibly provocative Ringo is throughout the film, using his bitter tongue as a weapon because he knows his hands can back it up. He plays the part of being resistant to showdowns, but his killer-label is still a core part of his identity at this point, so what appears to be an attempt to retreat from it isn't necessarily the case.
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Only once he meets his son does he have a desire to change, but the man we see for a bulk of the film is in this purgatory stage, torn between a part of him that wants to get away and a part that clings to all he has left: an egotistical sense of purpose in warped heroism -as noted by how he asks first about whether his son admires his reputation as a “hero”(!)
I still think this is an optimistic film, as I outlined in posts upthread, and the best example of a western that takes the recovery model of rehabilitation and applies it to the genre’s fundamental themes, because it doesn't define success based on uncontrollable outcomes of a long and happy life post-change, but an internal one of actualizing personal meaning regardless of how much time you have left.
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Re: 1053 The Gunfighter

#27 Post by hearthesilence »

It warms my heart to see Gregory Peck pay tribute to Bob Dylan - as he points out, it was this film that inspired one of Dylan's looniest and most hilarious songs, the epic "Brownsville Girl."
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Re: 1053 The Gunfighter

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hearthesilence wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:20 am It warms my heart to see Gregory Peck pay tribute to Bob Dylan - as he points out, it was this film that inspired one of Dylan's looniest and most hilarious songs, the epic "Brownsville Girl."
That is a great clip. The info is off, however: the clip is from 1997 when Dylan was honored, not 1991 (when Peck was honored). I couldn't recall the exact year myself and accepted the clip was from '91 until seeing the album cover of 1997's Time Out of Mind in the tribute montage; I knew that album wasn't released until '97!
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Re: 1053 The Gunfighter

#29 Post by hearthesilence »

Roger Ryan wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:43 pm
hearthesilence wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:20 am It warms my heart to see Gregory Peck pay tribute to Bob Dylan - as he points out, it was this film that inspired one of Dylan's looniest and most hilarious songs, the epic "Brownsville Girl."
That is a great clip. The info is off, however: the clip is from 1997 when Dylan was honored, not 1991 (when Peck was honored). I couldn't recall the exact year myself and accepted the clip was from '91 until seeing the album cover of 1997's Time Out of Mind in the tribute montage; I knew that album wasn't released until '97!
Not only that, but the Clintons wouldn't be sitting with the honorees in 1991 (or even 1992)! I never saw this when it was broadcast, but I caught a clip of Springsteen's performance (which would've happened after the recording cut off) - if memory serves, Dylan was actually moved to tears, which is startling because he ain't exactly the most emotional guy in the world (at least in public).
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Re: 1053 The Gunfighter

#30 Post by Rayon Vert »

That extra on King and the film by Gina Telaroli is pretty fantastic. She really knows his work and makes a case for him as an auteur. Too bad he's now locked away by the evil mouse.
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Re: 1053 The Gunfighter

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Drucker wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:31 pm This really lived up the hype that I've read about on this board. The film sets a perfect tone early on and sticks to it brilliantly. One of my other favorite Westerns is Yellow Sky but one thing that sort of turns me off is the tonal shift as Peck sort of becomes a 'good guy' towards the end. Peck is just so incredible in this movie, with this almost morose tone that permeates every scene. He's been so worn down and he wears it in every scene perfectly. There's no sense of the glory of the old west, and only a celebration of the civilization that has arrived. I was shocked to see so many women, families, and school children in this film, something that seems so absent in other westerns.

Highly, highly recommended. A fantastic film.
Well how poetic that I first watched this film the week I began to date my now wife!

I revisited this film tonight and still love it. In addition to all the deserving praise here, what struck me this watch was just how perfectly economical the film is. Dare I suggest it utilizes a number of cliches just perfectly, and in lesser hands scenes that could be eye-rolling are magnificent. And there are so many little details that make the film work so well.
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The first conversation between Ringo and Mark, with the shot/reverse-shot close-ups is perfect. Ringo asking "how is she", because of course he's here to see a girl. The lighting, the performance of both of them, everything about the conversation is perfect. The film literally puts a clock right at the center of the key location of the film, and yet it works as a subtle reminder that keeps rearing its head, rather than being too obvious. Ms. Pennyfeather has to be one of the all-time character names for exactly that type of character, and the bloodlust of the town's women is great. When Ringo confronts the man in the apartment across from the bar, it plays out almost like a Griffith film. I even love the grocery scene, where the shopper asks the cost of a pound of potatoes, gets told that she can save a penny if she buys 2 bags, and then instead buys half a bag. And lastly, the perfectly cast Bromley with his little barely there moustache as the assassin.
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