The 2003 Mini-List

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John Cope
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Re: The 2003 Mini-List

#76 Post by John Cope »

It would be difficult for me to launch a defense of the film without getting into more than many would probably be interested in, so I'll just go ahead and "spoiler" all of it:

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The narrative takes the form of a cruise from Lisbon to Istanbul and the Gateway to the East; as such there is an implicit guided tour from Western civilization history and associations to Eastern. Longtime Oliveira muse Silveira plays (or "represents" would be more appropriate) a history professor conducting her young daughter on this tour, introducing to her in the most disassociated sort of way cultural landmarks and meanings. This takes up the first half almost exactly and the rest is a combination of this and even more explicit such musings around the captain's table, featuring Malkovich, Deneuve, Papas and Sandrelli. The Silveira character is obviously educated, a repository of historical facts and knowledge, but what is subtly emphasized is that this only constitutes a partial understanding; she understands but she doesn't (and this goes for the rest of the characters too, all civilized to a fault; it's what keeps them all blinkered to the larger, geopolitical reality around them). It's important I think that she's distinguished from just another tourist as someone who does have more knowledge and understanding than that so that this partiality, this insufficiency means more. Cultural myths are recognized, for instance, but really only at arms length and from a strictly analytical distance. There is something admirable in that but an incapability of comprehending how that is or may still be integrated in is the failure of it as an applied technique even, or perhaps especially, when that is self-implicating. We see this expressed throughout in a variety of quietly insinuating ways (e.g. "It's the Greeks who protect Greece", "Which Middle Ages are we in now?", the childless group at the captain's table, the fastidious way Malkovich removes his uniform at the end when it's already too late, etc.). It's the general tendency to view history as already over, already a museum piece.

What's curious about this or even slightly strange is just how self-implicating it is as a technique. Oliveira has always distinguished himself and his work exactly through the same sort of analytical, distanced precision, both formally and intellectually, as is under review here. So it is surprising really to see him be this scrupulous about it. But that is finally a testament I think to the extent of his irony. And it's never a simplistically either-or argument; his approach is less a polemical critique than a pointed observation.
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Re: The 2003 Mini-List

#77 Post by denti alligator »

Thanks, John. Interesting read of the second half. One that even might account for what I see as its weaknesses.
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Maltic
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#78 Post by Maltic »

TBH, I struggle to come up with 10 titles for these years (which happen to be the first years for me as an adult)

1. Goodbye, Dragon Inn
2. PTU
3. Looney Tunes: Back in Action
4. Running on Karma
5. Master and Commander
6. Crimson Gold
7. Open Range
8. Something’s Gotta Give
9. The Return of Cagliostro
10. Come and Go

(not quite sure this was the order)
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#79 Post by the preacher »

denti alligator wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 7:14 pm Confused that anyone would put A Talking Picture at no. 1. Please reveal yourself and explain! (I don't dislike the film, but I find it hard to believe anyone could love all of it.)
That was me! :lol: Actually, I'm not a big fan of De Oliveira and it's very difficult for me to analyze favorably the film in purely cinematic terms (John Cope did a good work with that). It's Leonor Silveira's voice that really captivates me...
swo17 wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2026 6:45 pm Les Égarés [Strayed] (André Téchiné) 6
Bright Leaves (Ross McElwee) 4
Very good films. They deserve better.
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TMDaines
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#80 Post by TMDaines »

Not sure my ballot was included despite submitting before you posted the final list. I know I was quite late as I fell asleep and forgot the next morning after asking for a few inclusions.
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#81 Post by swo17 »

Sorry, it looks like you submitted just after I had downloaded the results to start tabulating. I've corrected the results post to add your list. Lichter is no longer an orphan
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andyli
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#82 Post by andyli »

Funny it still shows gif for Goodbye, Dragon Inn while Memories of Murder now takes the top spot. Sad PTU and Saddest Music are knocked out of the top 30 while Big Fish isn't :P

Jokes aside, great job as usual swo17! One tiny correction though: the original title for Café Lumière should be 珈琲時光 instead of 咖啡時光, a choice of kanji that reflects the Japanese origin.
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#83 Post by denti alligator »

The gif is from Dragon Inn, and is also in Goodbye, Dragon Inn, but there’s no way to tell that.
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#84 Post by swo17 »

I couldn't find a gif for the Tsai film, opted for being cheeky. Legit didn't notice that the #1 spot had changed!
andyli wrote: Thu Jun 04, 2026 12:19 am the original title for Café Lumière should be 珈琲時光 instead of 咖啡時光, a choice of kanji that reflects the Japanese origin.
Wow, good eye! I could barely tell the difference but I've fixed it
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#85 Post by TMDaines »

Thanks for updating. Sorry for the tardiness and inconvenience.
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