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davebert · #76 Post by **davebert** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:48 pm

Well if it's on Criterion's slate, then there are plenty of other films to keep me occupied until then. I'm just glad to hear I'll eventually get a chance to see it...

Jimaku · #77 Post by **Jimaku** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 6:36 pm

Lino wrote:Your best bet is to wait for a Criterion edition of it since it has already been confirmed elsewhere that this one is forthcoming.

Confirmed where?

Schkura · #78 Post by **Schkura** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:03 pm

Welcome to the forum, Jimaku-- I didn't see you come in. I believe the pseudo-confirmation of Yotsuya Ghost Story can be found here.

Jimaku · #79 Post by **Jimaku** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:55 am

Schkura wrote:Welcome to the forum, Jimaku-- I didn't see you come in. I believe the pseudo-confirmation of Yotsuya Ghost Story can be found here.

Thanks for the welcome!

The link says that Criterion acquired the rights, but Criterion holds the rights to far more films than they've ever released, or will ever release. Buying the rights for an obscure film like this is cheap and easy and Criterion can afford to do so without thinking twice. Making the committment to finding elements, doing a full digital restoration, and commissioning a new English translation and commentary (none of which is cheap) is a whole different story.

Tribe · #80 Post by **Tribe** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:55 pm

But that wasn't what you asked for confirmation of.

Tribe

Ben C · #81 Post by **Ben C** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:59 pm

The documentary on Jigoku has footage of Yatsuya that looked restored and no footage from any of the other movies they talked about (excpet Jigoku of course) which I think is a big clue that Yatsuya is hopefully in the works. I have the greek dvd and I agree this is an amazing classic ghost story and I'm ready to buy it again.

#82 Post by **zedz** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:38 am

Ben C wrote:The documentary on Jigoku has footage of Yatsuya that looked restored and no footage from any of the other movies they talked about (excpet Jigoku of course) which I think is a big clue that Yatsuya is hopefully in the works.

Yep - I think this is the clearest evidence that this is on its way. It's very rare for Criterion to include extensive clips from another movie in any of their featurettes (even when they've already released the film).

Galen Young · #83 Post by **Galen Young** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:56 pm

hammock wrote:
Galen Young wrote:I wrote them this morning, have not gotten a reply yet...
Still no news?

No response yet. I managed to extract the skipped over scene from the disc and put a clip of it up on a web page here so people can see and hear what baby godzilla is talking about. The footage is definitely there on the disc; some weird glitch is making the DVD player jump over it. Hopefully more people who own the disc and love the film will write Criterion and encourage them to take some kind of action -- either a recall or replacement.

Matango · #84 Post by **Matango** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:02 pm

A lot of glitches recently..this one, the wrong box for Rohmer, booklets missing. I wonder if it's anything to do with Image Entertainment.

Lino · #85 Post by **Lino** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:36 pm

I don't think Image Ent. had anything to do with it. They just handle distribution. I think it was more of a case of Quality Control going a bit amock during the vacation months -- August and September.

blindside8zao · #86 Post by **blindside8zao** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:31 am

I'm more than a tad curious about this. I had been very excited about the release and was going to buy it during the november sale, but I'd rather not if a second run will be corrected. I wish they'd at least reply to someone about this.

BrightEyes23 · #87 Post by **BrightEyes23** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:48 am

i'm in the same boat...i have it in my shopping cart actually and have been trying to decide on a few more titles, but now i'm not sure what to do...buy it now or wait, or not bother at all.

colinr0380 · #88 Post by **colinr0380** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:01 pm

A review of the DVD from the Twitch site

Galen Young · #89 Post by **Galen Young** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:37 pm

blindside8zao wrote:I wish they'd at least reply to someone about this.

You and me both. I finally returned my copy to the online retailer I bought it from for a refund. A shame because it's a truly beautiful copy of the film, and the little doc included is very nice. I let Criterion know my 'happiness' with their new policy of silently correcting mistakes behind their customers backs by cancelling my pre-order for their upcoming Janus book. Oh well! Whatever...

Napier · #90 Post by **Napier** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:42 pm

I just got this at my local retailer and watched it last night. I did notice what appeared to be a jump cut, and after checking my copy at lunch today,and seeing the missing scene in this thread, it is definitely a disc authoring error.Too bad.Shit happens!I will be e-mailing Criterion asap though.

criterionsnob · #91 Post by **criterionsnob** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:54 pm

Just cancelled my pre-order. I'll wait for Criterion to issue a second printing before I buy this.

garmonbozia · #92 Post by **garmonbozia** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:26 pm

has anyone received a response from Criterion about this issue?

Galen Young · #93 Post by **Galen Young** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:44 am

garmonbozia wrote:has anyone received a response from Criterion about this issue?

Here you go -- got this message tonight:

Angie Bucknell wrote:Re: Problem - Jigoku disc glitch?

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We are fixing the problem and will be more than happy to replace your DVD with a corrected version.

Please send your disc to the address below along with shipping information for the replacement, U.S. and Canadian addresses only as we are unable to ship exchanges abroad.

The Criterion Collection
215 Park Avenue South
5th floor
New York, NY 10003
attn: Jon Mulvaney

Thanks for supporting Criterion.

Angie Bucknell

Unfortunately I just received my refund today, so I'm out of luck. I wrote her back to ask if the corrected version is in a "second printing" package or not...

BrightEyes23 · #94 Post by **BrightEyes23** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:09 am

well thats good news, looks like i can wait a lil longer!

blindside8zao · #95 Post by **blindside8zao** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:11 am

just hope it's in stock at DDD in time for the Nov sale. It was hard enough to wait after the release.

Galen Young · #96 Post by **Galen Young** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:29 pm

Here's one more:

Angie Bucknell wrote:I am glad to hear that your retailer took the disc back.

We will be releasing the corrected version in a package that will indicate "second printing" on the back of the outer wrap.
It's hard to give an exact date but you can expect the new version to be ready in about a month.

Thanks again for your feedback and support.

My best,

Angie Bucknell

Case closed!

Napier · #97 Post by **Napier** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:33 pm

Thank God, now we can get back to discussing what a cool film Jigoku is.And what a great choice it was for Criterion.

Ben C · #98 Post by **Ben C** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:16 pm

Apparently I like it enough to buy it 3 times.

Sanjuro · #99 Post by **Sanjuro** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:48 am

Is it safe to buy this yet? I really want get it as a Christmas present for someone but not if the glitch-free version hasn't been released yet.

Darth Lavender · #100 Post by **Darth Lavender** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:24 pm

Sanjuro wrote:Is it safe ...

Just a minute, let me go get my dental instruments & oil of cloves.

Seriously though, this is one that I'm planning on getting too. My advice, email DVDPacific (or where-ever you buy from. I think DVDPacific is cheapest) and ask them if it's the corrected version (they're very good about responding to emails). I think it was said earlier in the thread that corrected versions actually say something on the cover ("second printing" or something like that)

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