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#201 Post by Berlueur »

Finch wrote:I imagine that other than the Palme D'Or and maybe Mikkelsen's Best Actor prize, the assembled critics will find a few bones to pick with the jury's other decisions. Angel's Share seems like a really charming and affable comedy (personally pleased for Loach though) but surely there were more deserving candidates for third prize. Reygadas getting Best Director is quite baffling if the reviews are any indication. Not even Riva for Amour? Feels a bit harsh considering the plaudits she and Tritignant got.
According to the Festival rules, a Palme d'Or can't be combined with a performance prize.
The prize list must not contain more than one joint award. The Palme d'Or can never be awarded jointly. No film can receive more than one award. However, the award for the Best Screenplay and the Jury Prize can be combined with a Best Performance award, on special dispensation of the Festival's President.
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#202 Post by Duncan Hopper »

Finch wrote: Not even Riva for Amour? Feels a bit harsh considering the plaudits she and Tritignant got.
Alan Smithee wrote:Glad Morreti overcame his Haneke hate though. And very happy for Reygadas.
Moretti said, 'I think, it's as much for Riva and Tritignant as for Haneke...'
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#203 Post by Grand Wazoo »

Did any director in the past have two consecutive films win the Palm?
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Finch wrote:I imagine that other than the Palme D'Or and maybe Mikkelsen's Best Actor prize, the assembled critics will find a few bones to pick with the jury's other decisions. Angel's Share seems like a really charming and affable comedy (personally pleased for Loach though) but surely there were more deserving candidates for third prize. Reygadas getting Best Director is quite baffling if the reviews are any indication. Not even Riva for Amour? Feels a bit harsh considering the plaudits she and Tritignant got.
Yeah, I heard some pretty mixed reviews also for Post Tenebras Lux also. I was very surprised to see Beyond the Hills get a lot of attention, as I hadn't even heard about the film until today when it started receiving awards LOL.
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#205 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian »

The only prizewinner without U.S. distribution is The Hunt, though it was probably a lock even without the Mikkelsen win. I got bored and made a list:

Amour - Sony Pictures Classics
The Angels' Share - Sundance Selects
Beyond the Hills - Sundance Selects
Cosmopolis - eOne
Holy Motors - Indomina
In Another Country - Kino Lorber
Killing Them Softly - The Weinstein Company
Lawless - The Weinstein Company
Like Someone in Love - Sundance Selects
On the Road - IFC/Sundance Selects
Reality - Oscilloscope
Rust and Bone - Sony Pictures Classics
The Taste of Money - IFC Midnight

Un Certain Regard:
Beasts of the Southern Wild - Fox Searchlight
Gimme the Loot - Sundance Selects

Out of Competition:
Hemingway & Gellhorn - HBO
The Oath of Tobruk - The Weinstein Company
The Sapphires - The Weinstein Company

I probably missed something (I assume Moonrise Kingdom and Madagascar 3 go without saying) and I didn't look at the Directors' Fortnight or Critics' Week selections -- though Larrain's No was picked up by Sony.
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#206 Post by Berlueur »

Jean-Louis Trintignant quoted Prévert in his speech: "Et si on essayait d'être heureux, ne serait-ce que pour donner l'exemple" (Free translation: "What if we tried to be happy, if only to set an example")
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criterion10 wrote:I was very surprised to see Beyond the Hills get a lot of attention, as I hadn't even heard about the film until today when it started receiving awards LOL.
You've obviously not been following the festival much then, BEYOND THE HILLS has been much spoken of.
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#208 Post by Berlueur »

How can Ken Loach's film seriously be more deserving of a prize than the Carax?!
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Grand Wazoo wrote:Has any director in the past had two consecutive films win the Palm?
Bille August (Pelle the Conqueror/The Best Intentions).
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Berlueur wrote:How can Ken Loach's film seriously be more deserving of a prize than the Carax?!
So you've seen both the films then?
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#211 Post by Finch »

The Fanciful Norwegian wrote:
Grand Wazoo wrote:Has any director in the past had two consecutive films win the Palm?
Bille August (Pelle the Conqueror/The Best Intentions).
Add Kusturica and the Dardennes to that list.
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#212 Post by criterion10 »

Duncan Hopper wrote: You've obviously not been following the festival much then, BEYOND THE HILLS has been much spoken of.
Well I've been paying attention to the festival by visiting the normal film sites that I visit, one of which features a reviewer that was at Cannes. Beyond the Hills was not one of the films that he saw, and so as a result, I had not heard of the film until today.
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#213 Post by Berlueur »

Duncan Hopper wrote:
Berlueur wrote:How can Ken Loach's film seriously be more deserving of a prize than the Carax?!
So you've seen both the films then?
Nope, just preemptively scandalized. :D
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#214 Post by Berlueur »

Moretti: "I've noticed that some directors were more in love with their style than with their characters"

Isn't that an unusually bitchy thing to say for a jury president...?
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#215 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian »

Finch wrote:
The Fanciful Norwegian wrote:
Grand Wazoo wrote:Has any director in the past had two consecutive films win the Palm?
Bille August (Pelle the Conqueror/The Best Intentions).
Add Kusturica and the Dardennes to that list.
They didn't win consecutively. The Dardennes had The Son in between their wins and Kusturica had Time of the Gypsies and Arizona Dream between his.
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#216 Post by Duncan Hopper »

Berlueur wrote:
Duncan Hopper wrote:
Berlueur wrote:How can Ken Loach's film seriously be more deserving of a prize than the Carax?!
So you've seen both the films then?
Nope, just preemptively scandalized. :D
I'm sure you're absolutely right though. :wink:
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#217 Post by Duncan Hopper »

I think there was clearly some 'you have this', 'we'll have this' compromises within jury, Morreti had the Garrone win one, Arnold and McGregor the Loach etc...
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#218 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian »

Loach seems like the kind of director that Moretti would like, though. Certainly he's the antithesis of the "more in love with their style than with their characters" description.
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#219 Post by Berlueur »

True that.
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#220 Post by Duncan Hopper »

It really does sound like a swipe at Carax for sure. The word was he despised HOLY MOTORS.
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#221 Post by Duncan Hopper »

The Jury press conference is just about to start, I suspect some thorny questions, hopefully.
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#222 Post by Jazzkammer »

As if Haneke doesn’t already get enough attention/acclaim. His profile as a highly regarded auteur is well established, and a second Palm D’or (while perhaps being well deserved – he is an admittedly excellent director), does a disservice to many other auspicious talents at the 2012 Cannes that would have benefitted more from this prestigious prize, e.g Loznitsa, Larrain (whose film wasn’t even in the Competition, which is a travesty to begin with), Hong Sang-Soo, Reygadas.

The Garrone winning Grand Prix can be undoubtably chalked up to nationalist bias on Moretti’s part, and the Loach film stealing the third prize seems like a waste, for what is obviously a trifling, minor comedy.

What I can't complain about is Reygadas getting a (consolation) nod for Best Director, and Mungui getting recognition for Best Screenplay. It's also somewhat gratifying to know that none of the overhyped American films in Competition won any prizes.
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#223 Post by Berlueur »

From the Twitters:
Gaultier à l'AFPTV: "Pour le #Reygadas, jusqu'au dernier moment pours et contres. On s'est bagarrés. Il y avait le Carax. A une voix près".
ETA: it's not clear from the quote whether it was a fight between the Regyadas and the Carax, or if there was a close fight for the Reygadas (which resulted in its winning) and a close fight for the Carax (which resulted in its losing)...
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#224 Post by Duncan Hopper »

Only one person (Gaultier no doubt) voted from Carax. And Reygadas only won his at the last minute after a big debate/argument?

That's how I read it, with my poor French skills.
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#225 Post by Berlueur »

Duncan Hopper wrote:Only one person voted from Carax, right? And Reygadas only won his at the last minute after a big debate/argument?
Nope, that's not what the quote means. It means that the Carax was one vote short from winning a prize. What remains up in the air is whether it was one vote short from winning a prize or the same prize as the Reygadas.
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