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If that's the narrative then people are more absurd than I thought

I’m guessing the reason is a simple “it wasn’t that good”

HFPA is a voting body of 90+ people who can be easily swayed.

The guilds have much larger voting bodies, and the Academy has a voting body of 6000+ people. I tend to wait for SAG/Guild precursors before I start burying certain movies' Oscar chances.

Roscoe wrote:In re: THE POST's general lack of awards recognition -- a sign that we're not in a place where movies about Rich White People Saving The Day are going to go down very well.

You may not be wrong. There has been a noticeable move away from the big prestige movies engineered to win awards over the last couple of years and that kicked off with the #OscarsSoWhite campaign.

Luke M wrote:I’m guessing the reason is a simple “it wasn’t that good”

"It Wasn't That Good" has never had anything to do with awards recognition, now has it?

The Complete BAFTA nominations list.

Unfortunately they went gaga over Darkest Hour like we feared, and they snubbed Get Out and Lady Bird, and the last time the Oscar winner wasn't nominated for Best Film was Million Dollar Baby, so anyone hoping for a winner that isn't Three Billboards should hope harder.

Curious that Film Forum has trimmed their screenings for the next couple of weeks -- no weekday screenings start after 6:00 p.m. or so.

Apperson wrote:The Complete BAFTA nominations list.

Unfortunately they went gaga over Darkest Hour like we feared, and they snubbed Get Out and Lady Bird, and the last time the Oscar winner wasn't nominated for Best Film was Million Dollar Baby, so anyone hoping for a winner that isn't Three Billboards should hope harder.

I don't recall anyone exactly fearing Darkest Hour in any context and those BAFTA nominations don't surprise me. It's prime awards material material. Unless I've missed something. It's not a masterpiece by any means but we all know the award routine by now.

Other than that I don't know because it feels like a toss up. Several months ago I was sure Dunkirk was a lock for a lot of things. Now it doesn't a damn thing. I don't know if some members will be able to withstand Three Billboards winning anything else (I jest as I haven't seen it myself but the forum reaction makes me question it's merit.)

ASC Awards nominations for Theatrical Release:

Blade Runner 2049 (Roger Deakins)
The Darkest Hour (Bruno Delbonnel)
Dunkirk (Hoyte van Hoytema)
The Shape of Water (Dan Laustsen)
Mudbound (Rachel Morrison)

Thrilled about the Mudbound nom. Too bad 99.9% of its audience is only going to see it riddled with compression artifacts.

If Rachel Morrison is nominated for an Oscar she will be the first woman nominated for cinematography.

Cinematography is the only category at the Oscars in which a woman has never been nominated, and there were decades when there where ten nominations in the category.

(Excluding the actor categories of course)

James Ivory could end up becoming the oldest screenwriter to ever be nominated, no?

beamish13 wrote:James Ivory could end up becoming the oldest screenwriter to ever be nominated, no?

Various sources claim that Gloria Stuart is the oldest nominee in any category, and she was 87—two years younger than Ivory is now. (There have been some older recipients of honorary awards, like Varda and the then-98-year-old Robert F. Boyle.) But there have been so many nominees over the years, many of them fairly obscure figures, that I'm not sure how much stock to put in such a sweeping claim. Apparently the Academy itself only tracks age records in the acting and directing categories.

DGA Nominees:

Guillermo del Toro, The Shape of Water
Greta Gerwig, Lady Bird
Martin McDonagh, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Christopher Nolan, Dunkirk
Jordan Peele, Get Out

First-time Director Nominees:

Geremy Jasper, Patti Cake$
William Oldroyd, Lady Macbeth
Jordan Peele, Get Out
Taylor Sheridan, Wind River
Aaron Sorkin, Molly's Game

I think those will be the five Oscar nominees too

Have to imagine Spielberg steals one of those spots just by virtue of name recognition

mfunk9786 wrote:Have to imagine Spielberg steals one of those spots just by virtue of name recognition

Interesting stat incoming, Spielberg has never got a Best Director nomination at the Oscars without also being nominated at the DGA.

Also, and this is more speculative, Oscar tends to go for more independent films compared to DGA so I'm not expecting him at all.

Then I stand corrected and am just praying somehow PTA gets in, but that seems equally unlikely. But with the vote happening later than any of these other ones, maybe enough people who watched their Phantom Thread screeners to see Daniel Day Lewis' performance will see fit to recognize it in other categories too. (Best Actress? Please?)

Still sad that The Florida Project's subject matter was just too uncomfortable for it to leave a lasting mark on this race.

I have to imagine it is also because A24 are too busy with Ladybird and Franco to petition for a third film.

Lets hope they're not too busy with Franco any longer.

Apperson wrote:Lets hope they're not too busy with Franco any longer.

Yes, let's totally exclude someone from showbusiness for shooting short films with nude scenes - keep lowering that bar

That comment was more to do with his apparently shit treatment of women on his social-media, but I honestly have not read any of the articles that have popped up over the past couple of days so I'm no expert.

mfunk9786 wrote:Still sad that The Florida Project's subject matter was just too uncomfortable for it to leave a lasting mark on this race.

I doubt that's it - I think it probably just lost out to Three Billboards for the "Garish Indie Social Posturing" slot.

Now there's some bait that's not worth taking!