BD 187 The Old Dark House

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HerrSchreck · #1 Post by **HerrSchreck** » Mon May 08, 2006 10:18 am

NY Film Forum recently had a Boris Karloff fest wherein a newly found print was shown, alleged to be far superior to the long-described Only Print In Existence (used for the Kino dvd, and, if my memory serves, was a 16 reduction blown back to 35mm). If I remember correct it was a library of congress print, newly discovered. Anybody see this, particularly those familiar with the older Curtis Harrington-related print.?

Mysterypez · #2 Post by **Mysterypez** » Mon May 08, 2006 8:37 pm

I have seen a version of the LOC print. That print had some contrast and exposures issues, but I am told that the final restoration that LOC produced is quite nice.

This LOC restoration originates from a Fine Grain Master that was printed directly the Nitrate neg, before it disappeared/decomposed. In fact there are three FGMs that were produced off the nitrate. One end up at Universal (now MIA), one end up at LOC, and one end up at another film archive.

The LOC restoration was done in 1999/2000 so I wouldn't call this newly discovered, just long ignored.

The Kino DVD does come from a 16mm print. And yes Kino did try and access the 35mm material at LOC and this other archiveÃ¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦ but alas no go.

HerrSchreck · #3 Post by **HerrSchreck** » Wed May 10, 2006 11:05 am

That's disappointing. I hope someone like eh Universal throws down dvdibs on it. It's too fabulous a film, the ghost of Paul Leni inhabiting Whale (who worshipped Leni, particularly the now super-difficult to see THE LAST WARNING, I've got a friggin wall projection of the thing from years ago).

HerrSchreck · #4 Post by **HerrSchreck** » Wed May 10, 2006 12:47 pm

Btw do you know what "the other archive" is?

Ribs · #5 Post by **Ribs** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:03 pm

Announced by Eureka to be releasing in 2018.

#6 Post by **Finch** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:12 pm

The Cohen BD is out in three months and currently on offer for £15 plus change from wowHD. Undecided on whether to keep that pre-order or to wait...

Drucker · #7 Post by **Drucker** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 2:12 pm

Really have been looking forward to this release, and really looking forward to this edition now.

What A Disgrace · #8 Post by **What A Disgrace** » Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:04 pm

At the very least, the MoC release will have better looking packaging than Cohen.

hearthesilence · #9 Post by **hearthesilence** » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:40 pm

Just announced on Facebook:

A 4K restoration of THE OLD DARK HOUSE is coming to screens in UK & Ireland in March 2018 followed by a Masters of Cinema Dual Format edition later in the year! More details to be revealed soon...

I have this restoration on the Cohen Blu-Ray, which was released in October, and it does indeed look fantastic.

Caligula · #10 Post by **Caligula** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:57 pm

Dual format edition on 21 May, according to Amazon

#11 Post by **Finch** » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:39 pm

The Graham Humphries theatrical poster for this is lovely. Will be going to see the 4k resto on the big screen at the Filmhouse in April.

#12 Post by **Finch** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:18 pm

Specs:

DUAL FORMAT SPECIAL FEATURES

LIMITED EDITION O-Card (first pressing only) featuring artwork by Graham Humphreys created especially for the 2018 UK theatrical release | Gorgeous 1080p presentation from the Cohen Media Group 4K restoration (with a progressive encode on the DVD) | Uncompressed LPCM audio (On the Blu-ray) | Optional English subtitles | An exclusive video essay by critic and filmmaker David Cairns | Feature length audio commentary by critic & author Kim Newman and Stephen Jones | Feature length audio commentary by Gloria Stuart | Feature length audio commentary by James Whale biographer James Curtis | Daughter of Frankenstein: A Conversation with Sara Karloff | Curtis Harrington Saves THE OLD DARK HOUSE - an archival interview with director Curtis Harrington about his efforts to save THE OLD DARK HOUSE at a time when it was considered a lost film | Eureka! trailer for the 2018 theatrical release of THE OLD DARK HOUSE | A collector’s booklet featuring new essay by critic Philip Kemp, as well as an abundant selection of archival imagery and ephemera.

FrauBlucher · #13 Post by **FrauBlucher** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:30 pm

A very impressive package.

hearthesilence · #14 Post by **hearthesilence** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:43 pm

Finch wrote:Specs:
An exclusive video essay by critic and filmmaker David Cairns
Feature length audio commentary by critic & author Kim Newman and Stephen Jones

The Cohen Collection BD was superlative and loaded with extras. (FWIW, James Cameron reportedly cast Gloria Stuart in Titanic because of her highly entertaining commentary on this film, which was originally issued on an LD release.) But MoC has really gone the extra mile, porting over those extras and adding these (a third commentary!) on top. Not enough for me to double dip, but honestly this is the one to get if you're region-free and haven't bought it already.

What A Disgrace · #15 Post by **What A Disgrace** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:38 pm

I believe the Cohen BD just ported over the extras from the super old Kino DVD.

hearthesilence · #16 Post by **hearthesilence** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:45 pm

That would make sense - I haven't seen the Karloff extra yet, but I know the commentaries were old (Stuart's been dead since 2010) and the Curtis Harrington extra seemed to have been shot decades ago on videotape.

Jonathan S · #17 Post by **Jonathan S** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:55 pm

All three commentaries appear to be ports, as Network recorded one with Kim Newman & Stephen Jones for the UK DVD release.

L.A. · #18 Post by **L.A.** » Wed May 16, 2018 12:06 pm

Reviews @ DVD Compare and Beaver.

ChunkyLover · #19 Post by **ChunkyLover** » Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:30 pm

UHD upgrade coming in July. Announcement on Thursday.

ChunkyLover · #20 Post by **ChunkyLover** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:04 pm

SPECIAL FEATURES

Limited Edition [2000 copies]
A limited edition O-card slipcase, featuring artwork by Sara Deck strictly exclusive to this edition only
A limited edition collector’s booklet featuring a new essay on The Old Dark House by Craig Ian Mann, an essay by Philip Kemp and select archival material
4K (2160p) UHD Blu-ray presentation from a 4K digital restoration, presented in a new and exclusive Dolby Vision HDR (HDR 10 compatible) grade.
Uncompressed LPCM audio
Optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard-of-hearing
Audio commentary by critic and author Kim Newman and Stephen Jones
Audio commentary by Gloria Stuart
Audio commentary by James Whale biographer James Curtis
Meet the Femms – video essay by critic and filmmaker David Cairns
Daughter of Frankenstein – an interview with Sara Karloff
Rescuing a Classic – archival interview with director Curtis Harrington focused on his efforts to save The Old Dark House, then considered a lost film
2018 re-release trailer
Stills gallery

https://eurekavideo.co.uk/movie/the-old ... -ultra-hd/

I assume the "new and exclusive" grade will be different from the German UHD.

ryannichols7 · #21 Post by **ryannichols7** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:11 pm

significant downgrade on the cover, but thrilled this is getting a UHD for sure. MOC's 4Ks have been great so far

#22 Post by **Finch** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:38 pm

The only reason I'm probably getting it in July is because so far no one else has anything that month I want (well, Criterion do but I'm not buying outside of their 50% sale). The only new addition outside of the dolby vision is the Craig Mann essay.

Drucker · #23 Post by **Drucker** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:58 pm

Atrocious cover. Love this film.

nicolas · #24 Post by **nicolas** » Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:58 pm

The 4K will be encoded by Fidelity in Motion

#25 Post by **Finch** » Fri Apr 25, 2025 10:54 pm

Which means he's also doing the DV grade as he has for the BFI's Kurosawa 4Ks.

While the new artwork is dire, they'll probably have the same theatrical poster on the reverse or maybe Humphrey's BD artwork. They kept Nick Wrigley's wonderful art for Touch of Evil on the reverse cover.

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