Hancock (Peter Berg, 2008)
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Now, let's be fair. He's one of five credited writers, the others which include the guy who wrote Home Fries and the guy who co-wrote that Tony Scott BMW commercial with James Brown and an unsold Rachael Leigh Cook pilot.DrewReiber wrote:Oh thank GOD. The man who brought us Batman & Robin has returned to making superhero movies.
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Goldsman is the full producer on Hancock, which also means his vision/rewrites take considerable precedence over the others (aside from Berg). Might I also mention that Berg was the third director attached to the project after both Mann and Muccino dropped it. I think that's a pretty good indication that the directors had creative differences with the producer(s).Matt wrote:Now, let's be fair. He's one of five credited writers
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I take it you've found a 50/50 enjoyment ratio among the other genre-related projects from these people or you just have that much faith in Peter Berg. You never did say anything about I Am Legend, so I'm assuming you found something redeeming in it.Antoine Doinel wrote:That said, it could go either way.
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DrewReiber wrote:I take it you've found a 50/50 enjoyment ratio among the other genre-related projects from these people or you just have that much faith in Peter Berg. You never did say anything about I Am Legend, so I'm assuming you found something redeeming in it.Antoine Doinel wrote:That said, it could go either way.
Peter Berg: I've never seen anything he's directed, because I've really never been interested in his projects.
John August: I enjoyed Go and Charlie And The Chocolate Factory.
Vince Gilligan: Haven't seen anything this guy has done.
Your best buddy, Akiva Goldsman: I've only seen Lost In Space which was a huge pile of garbage. Everything else I was either not interested or it got terrible reviews.
Vincent Ngo: Haven't seen those car ads.
All that said, generally looking at the credits for summer blockbusters to decide if they are good or not is a bullshit game. I would have to write off Alexander Payne for "writing" I Now Pronounce You Chuck And Larry when in reality Adam Sandler's team of writers basically took his concept and chucked everything else out. As we all know, just because you are credited as a "writer" or "producer" doesn't actually mean you had any input in the finished project. So of those five credited writers, who knows who actually wrote the damn thing or when.
As as I said, I like the concept. I think the combination of Will Smith and Jason Bateman could be enjoyable and if the film is played out right, it could be a nice antidote to the glut of subpar, very earnest action hero films.
Oh yeah, I haven't seen I Am Legend yet.
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You're absolutely welcome to your opinion, but in this case the example is far clearler than you make it out to be.Antoine Doinel wrote:All that said, generally looking at the credits for summer blockbusters to decide if they are good or not is a bullshit game.
Well, he's had quite a lot of input on the other projects he's co-written while producer. We're also talking about the same guy who got to decide that the ad placement by the effects department in I Am Legend would include his upcoming projects.just because you are credited as a "writer" or "producer" doesn't actually mean you had any input in the finished project.
Do you want me to write you the timeline? I've followed the project for a long time, which is why I keep emphasizing how critical Goldsman's attachment to the project is. I know you seem to hate it when I knock the wind out of the marketing sails of Hollywood, but it's really nowhere near as hard as you portray it to figure out who runs these projects.So of those five credited writers, who knows who actually wrote the damn thing or when.
Oh, and as a matter of fact, Goldsman does the final revisions for any Will Smith project to which he's attached. He also did the final polish for Constantine.
There's nothing wrong with the concept. I happen to like Will Smith too. He was good in I Am Legend, actually. But that does not change the fact that Akiva Goldsman, who is still absolutely unapologetic for his contributions to some of the worst comic book films of all time, is sheparding this project along as writer and FULL producer. If you are still looking forward to it, fine, but that's what's going on.As as I said, I like the concept. I think the combination of Will Smith and Jason Bateman could be enjoyable and if the film is played out right, it could be a nice antidote to the glut of subpar, very earnest action hero films.
Just to be clear, I wouldn't go so far as calling any filmmaker 'unapologetic' unless there was a context for it. If you haven't yet seen it, you should check out Goldsman's "you need guys like us to appreciate good projects" speech from his post-release Batman & Robin interview on DVD.
I am very curious as to your response.Oh yeah, I haven't seen I Am Legend yet.
EDIT: My bad folks, Jonathan Mostow was also attached and dropped out sometime after Mann. I forgot that one.
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Dude, I don't care about the marketing. Outside of the trailer, I haven't seen anything else regarding and mostly just heard about it here and there during its development.
I think the trailer shows promise, but like I said it can go either way.
For the record, I thought Constantine was a lot better than the reception it generally got.
I think the trailer shows promise, but like I said it can go either way.
For the record, I thought Constantine was a lot better than the reception it generally got.
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Yeah, I enjoyed this one as well... altho, it may have helped that I hadn't read a page of the comic book on which it was based on. A buddy of mine is a huge fan of the source material and hated the film. Oh well.Antoine Doinel wrote:For the record, I thought Constantine was a lot better than the reception it generally got.
As for Hancock, so long as Don Murphy keeps his grubby hands of this film I'll be happy. That man has managed to destroy almost every Alan Moore comic book adaptation with the exception of Watchmen, which, thank god, he's not involved with.
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Sony doesn't want you to know that Will Smith is a Scientologist.
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Well Berg is directing the big Dune film in the works, maybe they can cast Smith as Paul Atreides/Muad'Dib and make it a faux scientology push to make up for him having to deny the link. Sounds reasonable.Antoine Doinel wrote:Sony doesn't want you to know that Will Smith is a Scientologist.
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Unrated trailer.
Apparentally this went out without a signoff from the MPAA (how this makes this different from a redband trailer is beyond me), so there is one gag in this one that will be missing from the theatrical version. I'm pretty sure you'll be able to guess which one it is.
And oh yeah, this looks pretty fun.
Apparentally this went out without a signoff from the MPAA (how this makes this different from a redband trailer is beyond me), so there is one gag in this one that will be missing from the theatrical version. I'm pretty sure you'll be able to guess which one it is.
And oh yeah, this looks pretty fun.
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