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Guys, we can discuss this movie I guess, but I made this thread as a self-help thread. We need to hold each other accountable, especially with such a beautiful woman involved. I will not allow myself to spend money on this.

My name is Blake, and I love Angelina Jolie.

*joins group*

You officially have won today's "more balls than I'll ever aspire to" award.

moviscop wrote:I will not allow myself to spend money on this.

My name is Blake, and I love Angelina Jolie.

When is the last time Jolie has actually made movie worth watching?

Wanted... bound to be trash
Beowulf... nope
A Mighty Heart... nope
The Good Shepherd... could of been, but not really
Mr & Mrs Smith... nope
Alexander... nope
Sky Captain... nope
Beyond Borders, Taking Lives... nope
The Tomb Raider films, Gone in Sixty Seconds... gag

Despite the fact that Changeling will probably break the streak, can someone inform me why she is such a big deal? I know there's the whole Brad Pitt thing now, and people find her attractive, but the woman has been completely living off a '99 Oscar for the last decade.

possibly the worst, least appealing "major actress" in cinema history (assuming Halle Berry and Hillary Swank are not in "major actress" category)

Because everyone still remembers the first time they saw Gia at 2AM on HBO

domino harvey wrote:Because everyone still remembers the first time they saw Gia at 2AM on HBO

No crystal balls allowed in this thread, we will all be embarrassed

I have edited this post about 8 times trying to find the correct way to say this.

Cold Bishop wrote:When is the last time Jolie has actually made movie worth watching?

A Mighty Heart... nope

I dunno, I thought she was pretty good in this one -- certainly better than anything she's done in years -- but I think that this film worked more for me because of Michael Winterbottom's direction.

The film looks really bad.

I'm not sure we need a film glorifying assassins in this way. I mean, of course we've seen plenty of great films revolving around professional killers in the past, but there's something about portraying them as uber-cool heroes whose moral compass is never questioned that rubs me the wrong way.

Of course, I could be wrong.

Yeah, but they're good assassins. "Kill one save a thousand."

Not to be overly misogynistic, but now that Angelina doesn't show her tits in movies anymore, is there really any reason to go and see them? (Her movies, that is, not her tits).

At least it has an R rating...

Cold Bishop wrote:

moviscop wrote:I will not allow myself to spend money on this.

My name is Blake, and I love Angelina Jolie.

When is the last time Jolie has actually made movie worth watching?

Wanted... bound to be trash
Beowulf... nope
A Mighty Heart... nope
The Good Shepherd... could of been, but not really
Mr & Mrs Smith... nope
Alexander... nope
Sky Captain... nope
Beyond Borders, Taking Lives... nope
The Tomb Raider films, Gone in Sixty Seconds... gag

Despite the fact that Changeling will probably break the streak, can someone inform me why she is such a big deal? I know there's the whole Brad Pitt thing now, and people find her attractive, but the woman has been completely living off a '99 Oscar for the last decade.

While we're kicking her around (and she sure as hell deserves it) we might as well toss "Hackers" in there.

Don't badmouth Jolie's other premium cable staple, "Hack the planet" remains sage wisdom for us all.

So, does anyone actually want to discuss the movie? Otherwise I'm thinking of adding another thread to the Infighting pile. Who was offering that shovel, again?

Mr_sausage wrote:So, does anyone actually want to discuss the movie?

Did you see the trailer? I think derision is the most it's gonna get.

The red-band trailer was really the deal-breaker for me. Between Morgan Freeman's awkward delivery of "motherfucker" and the painfully obvious Fight Club-Matrix ideologies being spouted were just too much to even take seriously. Plus, what did this guy direct before? I know it's his American debut and wondered if anyone here was vaguely familiar with his work.

Cold Bishop wrote:

Mr_sausage wrote:So, does anyone actually want to discuss the movie?

Did you see the trailer? I think derision is the most it's gonna get.

Yes, I did see the trailer. I wasn't being over sincere with that question.

I think the movie would be a lot more fun if they kept the cartoon thinking of the characters and then plopped them into a movie using real physics. Then when Jolie slides her car so as to catch that bullet-curving kid in the open door, we get to see him splatter all over the inside of the car while Jolie screams in horror over her ruined couture. In fact, I would love it if they were all military fail-outs of some kind whose over-achieving glee drags some poor oblivious kid through the most colossal fuck-ups imaginable. I'm not helping the downward spiral am I?

flyonthewall2983 wrote:Plus, what did this guy direct before? I know it's his American debut and wondered if anyone here was vaguely familiar with his work.

Night Watch and Day Watch, two films I really love a lot -- and look forward to the coming third. The mix of horror and humor is spot on. (and the novels they are based on are pretty cool as well) The director, Timur Bekmambetov is the only reason I'll be there on opening night to see Wanted. Of course it looks ridiculous and absurd -- but I don't care, I'm going for the Timur. Personally, I think the Russian trailer makes it look far more interesting. (too bad we won't get the Russian version with subtitles!) I'll be surprised if it tops Day Watch, but we'll see...

No... the Russian trailer is just as much of a cgi/slow-mo overload. But I'm suprised to see a Russian DUB... Didn't know they did them.

To be completely fair that train sequence does look really awesome.

I just saw a trailer today that had a scene of the main character shooting a fly with a gun and being told "hes ready."

the problem is, it doesn't seem like this film is even taking itself seriously, not even a little bit.

Cold Bishop wrote: But I'm suprised to see a Russian DUB... Didn't know they did them.

They generally do Russian voiceovers rather than dubs - it's the cheapest translation method of all. My sister innocently went to see something (nominally) in English in Moscow, and discovered this the hard way!

Perhaps the most noteworthy thing about this film is that its parodywas released 9 months ahead of it.

Tom Hagen wrote:Perhaps the most noteworthy thing about this film is that its parodywas released 9 months ahead of it.

Heh, true! I think that you'll see most reviewers comparing it The Matrix, but I'm sure it will have a strong opening weekend based on Angelina Jolie's presence and the promise of stylized action. I dunno, even though it looks hopelessly derivative, it does look like snazzy eye candy but I think I'll wait 'till DVD.

I'm assuming it won't have the funky subtitles that were the highlight of Bekmambetov's two previous films?