Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 6

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#626 Post by Jeff »

I love all of the alternate designs. The one they went with is fine, but nothing more. The sparks and the Caan profile are my favorite. You can't blame Fred Davis, who clearly had some great ideas. He makes it clear that the one with the production still and original logo were insisted upon by Mann. I'd imagine the notes from Mann were the same ones he gives to his DPs and production designers -- "Shinier! More blue!"
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#627 Post by captveg »

It looks as though Mann dictated that they use the cover we got, though, so really not much the designer could do.
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#628 Post by Anhedionisiac »

I agree with Jeff and matricschmatrix, the alternate designs are miles better. The sparks and the bottom right one definitely stand out. I feel bad for Fred Davis now. It baffles me that Mann would prefer that still to Fred's preliminary designs.
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#629 Post by rwiggum »

Honestly, I think the alternate designs look like amateurish fan covers. While I like the motifs they're working in, the use of that much black negative space always screams "I'm using a horizontal image and didn't bother adding anything to make it work as a DVD cover."
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#630 Post by FakeBonanza »

I thought that the Thief cover looked awful when I first saw it on my phone. I don't mind it as much now that I've seen it in higher resolution. I'm not a fan of any of those alternate covers anyway.

I've never seen It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, and likely never will, but I'm still slightly disappointed that Criterion didn't at least go with the Saul Bass artwork for their cover. Then again, their choice of art might have something to do with my disinterest in the film--I am not the market they are appealing to with that cover; fans of the film are likely thrilled to have that poster artwork retained. It's also possible that the studio wanted that artwork used, and I wonder if this might also have something to do with the Criterion branding being so faint on that cover.
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#631 Post by matrixschmatrix »

rwiggum wrote:Honestly, I think the alternate designs look like amateurish fan covers. While I like the motifs they're working in, the use of that much black negative space always screams "I'm using a horizontal image and didn't bother adding anything to make it work as a DVD cover."
The movie itself is dominated by negative space, and the images are often swallowed in blackness- it's totally apropos.
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#632 Post by rwiggum »

matrixschmatrix wrote:The movie itself is dominated by negative space, and the images are often swallowed in blackness- it's totally apropos.
Yes, but I think there are better ways of pulling that off in a package design than a thin horizontal image on a portrait-oriented package. It's really more a pet peeve of mine.
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#633 Post by Moe Dickstein »

FakeBonanza wrote:I've never seen It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, and likely never will, but I'm still slightly disappointed that Criterion didn't at least go with the Saul Bass artwork for their cover.
Skillman tweeted the other Jack Davis art and said that this was one case where the Bass version was second best or words to that effect. The poster itself that is credited to Bass is not actually Bass but someone taking elements of his main title design and concocting a poster from it.
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#634 Post by Brian C »

The Thief cover is reasonably attractive on its own terms, but its biggest virtue is that it screams "Michael Mann". You don't really even need to have his name on the cover. Not at all surprising that it's true to the "very specific ideas" that Mann had. It represents the film through and through.

The sparks and safe dial covers are like parodies of arty Criterion covers, not really relating to the movie in any specific way and just trying be evocative for their own sake. The profile one also is very nice and Mann-ish, but more like Heat Mann than Thief Mann.
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#635 Post by HistoryProf »

utterly ecstatic to finally get Rififi on Blu...and utterly depressed that the cover is so blah. such an iconic film w/ such a high school design class cover is an insult.

Really like the Davies and Thief though.
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#636 Post by Charles »

Brian C wrote:The Thief cover is reasonably attractive on its own terms, but its biggest virtue is that it screams "Michael Mann". You don't really even need to have his name on the cover. Not at all surprising that it's true to the "very specific ideas" that Mann had. It represents the film through and through.

The sparks and safe dial covers are like parodies of arty Criterion covers, not really relating to the movie in any specific way and just trying be evocative for their own sake. The profile one also is very nice and Mann-ish, but more like Heat Mann than Thief Mann.
More glaring is the star's name on the cover. I've looked at this several times since yesterday afternoon, and that still sticks out for me.
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#637 Post by flyonthewall2983 »

What I like about the Thief cover is that it is based off an original promotional image as opposed to making all new artwork for it. I don't know if it was an issue with Warner Bros. but the original poster for Badlands is pretty iconic and am otherwise baffled why they didn't use it for that release.
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#638 Post by dwk »

Criterion's Badlands cover is a painting that Malick wanted to use as the original poster.
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#639 Post by zedz »

It's the director's cut of the original poster!
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#640 Post by Jeff »

Charles wrote:More glaring is the star's name on the cover.
Almost certainly a contractual requirement.
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#641 Post by ShellOilJunior »

When I saw the Rififi cover it looked awfully familiar. The hand is back...

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#642 Post by jbeall »

I'll definitely be upgrading to a blu of Rififi, but yeah, not a big fan of the cover. In tone, it reminds me of a comedic heist film such as Pink Panther or Charade. But Rififi is so much darker in tone and more serious in its endeavor that the cover actively misrepresents the film.
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#643 Post by Moe Dickstein »

Rififi makes Pepe Le Moko look well designed.
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#644 Post by swo17 »

I like the idea behind the Rififi cover a little more than the execution, but on the whole, it will do. Mostly it'll be great to have this on Blu, because the PQ on the DVD was lacking.
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#645 Post by Gregory »

I'm really happy I bought the Arrow blu-ray of it for about £9, with vintage posters on the front and back cover (after reversing it).
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#647 Post by Yaanu »

So it's only one spine number on "Shadows" despite also containing "A Constant Forge"?
That's unexpected, at least to me.

Also, a shame about that little nick in the bottom corner of the case.
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#648 Post by mfunk9786 »

I don't know what you have against photographing spines, Chris. :)
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#649 Post by zedz »

Isn't the real question burning in everybody's mind: does this release conceal the words "Jimmy crack corn" anywhere on its person?
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#650 Post by cdnchris »

mfunk9786 wrote:I don't know what you have against photographing spines, Chris. :)
I actually meant to but forgot, admittedly. And by the time I was at the computer uploading them I was so exhausted that the simple task of positioning a box and taking a picture seemed like too much. I'll get one up this evening.
zedz wrote:Isn't the real question burning in everybody's mind: does this release conceal the words "Jimmy crack corn" anywhere on its person?
I didn't see it (I actually also meant to take a picture of the interior of the box as well.) I don't have the "Jimmy crack corn" printing of the DVD but as I understand it it was inside, correct?
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