21 Dead Ringers

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jorencain
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#26 Post by jorencain »

Are you kidding me? HBO has some of the best shows on TV, the movie was great, and having Cronenberg's involvement seals the deal for me as something potentially very cool.
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#27 Post by justeleblanc »

I think it has a lot of promise. I would like to see an original idea and not have it based off of a movie, but you never know. Maybe it will be a distant cousin to Dead Ringers and not a complete adaptaion.
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#28 Post by blindside8zao »

I just can't conceive of it being something you could make a show of? I've never seen any of the HBO serious shows, though. I am a die-hard tv killing tirader. I don't even have a cable hook up for my TV, I get 0 channels. Even having Cronenbergs assistance, he isn't doing the script. I would much rather see more quality cinema than a spin off of a wonderful film.
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The Invunche
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#29 Post by The Invunche »

So basically you don't know what you're talking about.
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#30 Post by blindside8zao »

I s'pose so.
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exte
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#31 Post by exte »

Brian Oblivious wrote:And none to speak of in Stereo or Crimes of the Future.
Anyone know where I can find these two? Crimes of the Future is listed on the Criterion Laserdisc of Dead Ringers, but not the dvd. Anyone know why it was left off? How do you suppose I can view these?
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#32 Post by solaris72 »

exte wrote:Anyone know where I can find these two? Crimes of the Future is listed on the Criterion Laserdisc of Dead Ringers, but not the dvd. Anyone know why it was left off? How do you suppose I can view these?
Get Blue Underground's 2 disc Fast Company LE. Disc two features both films in excellent anamorphic transfers.
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#33 Post by blindside8zao »

word, just hurry up, it's going out of print.
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#34 Post by Lino »

This site here below compares the OOP Criterion with the new Warners
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#35 Post by justeleblanc »

Does anyone know anymore about Cronenberg's DEAD RINGERS tv show for HBO?
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#36 Post by Greathinker »

If I am not able to get a hold of the criterion release, would I be right in assuming that the Canadian 15th anniversary edition of the film would be my best bet? The improper aspect ratio and extras are a turn off on the warner release.
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#37 Post by hearthesilence »

I e-mailed Criterion about the Canadian release but the person didn't get back to me regarding the transfer. He did confirm that the extras were licensed out (which was pretty obvious).
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#38 Post by exte »

Achris wrote:If I am not able to get a hold of the criterion release, would I be right in assuming that the Canadian 15th anniversary edition of the film would be my best bet? The improper aspect ratio and extras are a turn off on the warner release.
Yes, it's a direct port. Even the menus say it's a criterion dvd. I have that Canadian release, and my friend has the original, so trust me...
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#39 Post by dx23 »

According to mcarver at DVDTalk, the Warner release is now out of print.
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#40 Post by alandau »

I purchased a copy of the OOP Dead Ringers from Ebay last year.
The seller guaranteed it's authenticity and had a 100% rating.

However, when I try and use the subtitles to understand Jeremy Iron's muffling nothing appears. Did DEAD RINGERS have no subtitles whatsoever, including standard English subtitles, or have I purchased a well-disguised bootleg.
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#41 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian »

Dead Ringers had no subs, like most (all?) early English-language Criterions.
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#42 Post by tryavna »

And now current and future Criterions, it seems. :roll:
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exte
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#43 Post by exte »

godardslave wrote:so there is no real gore in dead ringers?

If so ill watch it, i have been holding off as, [embarrased as i am to admit this], i am very squeamish.
Did you ever get around to it? I'm curious...
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#44 Post by patrick »

Anyone know where I can find these two? Crimes of the Future is listed on the Criterion Laserdisc of Dead Ringers, but not the dvd. Anyone know why it was left off? How do you suppose I can view these?
in addition to the Fast Company LE, there's a really nice R2 DVD with both films from Reel23, which is quickly becoming a new favorite company of mine.
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#45 Post by garmonbozia »

The Fanciful Norwegian wrote:Yes, there was. It fixed a technical glitch of some kind on the commentary track, IIRC.
Does anyone know what the sound problem on the first printing was for sure? This was the only "known problem" disc I never traded in for a fixed copy, and now that it is long out of print, I am pretty much stuck with my first printing copy. I never noticed any problems that I can recall, but am VERY curious as to what the exact problem was.

Anyone remember?
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#46 Post by bradass »

I have what I believe to be a legit disc, and the image seems most slightly unstable. For anyone else who owns this, do you notice the same problem?
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Venom
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#47 Post by Venom »

The Reversal of Fortune win was to make up for the oversight of this I imagine. Liked seeing Jill Hennessy and the identical twin sister I never knew she had (I thought the twinning effects were done on her too until I saw the credits). Fitting she would start out in a "ripped from the headlines" film since Law & Order is most known for those.
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zedz
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#48 Post by zedz »

Venom wrote:The Reversal of Fortune win was to make up for the oversight of this I imagine.
In the larger, karmic sense, perhaps, but I doubt if this film and Cronenberg were even on Academy voters' radars at the time, and if they were, they would probably have repulsed / appalled them.
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#49 Post by TomReagan »

zedz wrote:
Venom wrote:The Reversal of Fortune win was to make up for the oversight of this I imagine.
In the larger, karmic sense, perhaps, but I doubt if this film and Cronenberg were even on Academy voters' radars at the time, and if they were, they would probably have repulsed / appalled them.
You might be surprised by the following, zedz. I vividly recall that when Irons specifically thanked Cronenberg early on in his acceptance speech, a considerable portion of the audience immediately -- and with more vigor than I would have expected -- applauded. I too have always suspected that Dead Ringers was on many members' minds when their ballots were cast. (I should also note that this suspicion is not intended to in any way diminish his performance in Reversal -- as Dershowitz quipped, "Irons does a better von Bülow than von Bülow.")
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#50 Post by Matt »

TomReagan wrote:I vividly recall that when Irons specifically thanked Cronenberg early on in his acceptance speech, a considerable portion of the audience immediately -- and with more vigor than I would have expected -- applauded.
Let's go to the videotape.
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